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The Truth About The Crusades

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MP3: http://www.fdrpodcasts.com/#/3153/the-truth-about-the-crusades Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/stefan-molyneux/fdr-3153-truth-about-crusades Were the Crusades an unprovoked act of aggression on behalf of bloodthirsty Christians? Did the First Crusade mark the beginning of close to a millennium of hostility between Christianity and Islam, or did the conflict begin centuries earlier? Stefan Molyneux takes a closer look at the historical background of the Crusades and presents shocking information that is often hidden from the general population. What is the truth about the origins of the Crusades? Sources: http://www.fdrurl.com/truth-about-crusades Freedomain Radio is 100% funded by viewers like you. Please support the show by signing up for a monthly subscription or making a one time donation at: http://www.freedomainradio.com/donate Get more from Stefan Molyneux and Freedomain Radio including books, podcasts and other info at: http://www.freedomainradio.com Amazon Affiliate Links US: http://www.fdrurl.com/Amazon Canada: http://www.fdrurl.com/AmazonCanada UK: http://www.fdrurl.com/AmazonUK
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carl doyle!koil (13 минут назад)
Well said my friend
Marthious' knowledge 3 (5 часов назад)
Alaric Stonewood (13 часов назад)
the link for the sources is broken, any chance anyone has them?
Egyptian (14 часов назад)
Christians literally tolerated all of this slaughter for 400 years! Do you know how long 400 years is holy! God bless them
James Dodson (17 часов назад)
Daily Reminder: Socialism always ends in starvation and genocide
LordArgoth (1 день назад)
Deus vult from England!
Adolf Ritter (1 день назад)
Hi Stefan, Thank you for educating public about this crucial topic. I have one question.Do you by any chance have for download (in .pdf, doc..etc) the historical bluet points you have used in your presentation. It is really important for us to learn about those historical facts. Thank You
Robert K (2 дня назад)
How is this video still online, sjw soyboys must be going ape. Absolutely amazing history lesson
Big Lee (3 дня назад)
People need to look up black Muslim white slave and you will see what the Muslims and others have done that yes European have done some bad things which show has had other races but we need to remember the past so that in the future we don't go through what we have went through then
Miami Gardens Ravens Football (3 дня назад)
Free will to to make you think
Rich Vestal (3 дня назад)
As a side note: much of Christianity in the East and North Africa were still followers of a heretic named Arius who denied the divinity of Christ. So the conversion of those peoples when Islam came along probably wasn't as forced as may be assumed.
Matthew Layford (4 дня назад)
I am proud to be European, and even more proud to be English. Britain was once the workshop of the world, when we churned out modern apparatus and technological advances that had the power to change the lives of every human being on earth. In the Newcastle, I am a stones throw away from the site where Stephenson the elder, a man with no education and nothing but his tools and a desire to invent, created the first functioning locomotive engine. We can learn from mistakes of the past, but we must also keep the memory of European achievements alive, if we have any hope that ourselves and the Europeans of tomorrow will be worthy innovators and great thinkers like our ancestors.
The Howling Misogynist (4 дня назад)
Michael Lamont (5 дней назад)
Maybe no welfare for invaders ??
boshaveit (6 дней назад)
Delivering Truth as always, like a Boss...
Ducoo (6 дней назад)
islam is born in jihad. and Isis also shouted into the world jihad! we know what happened since them, terrorist attacks in all western countries. still nobody pointed the finger on islam but words like islamophobia were created bravo  This should be learned in school not the current mostly faked history..
mo1tard (7 дней назад)
Wow. Powerful stuff. I donated by the way. Keep up the good work.
Stefan Molyneux (7 дней назад)
Thanks so much my friend
Knight Watchman (8 дней назад)
Nice job presenting the history of jihad. Thanks!
Lady Hawk (8 дней назад)
Christians are too weak and ignorant to fight for their own religion now a days . They will stomp Christianity under their stinking feet.
Evalation (9 дней назад)
I am proud of my Crusading, Colonial, Imperialist ancestors. We came we saw we conquered, and I am proud of my German heritage on my mothers side. It took the entire world to come together to stop Germany and almost failed, that is fucking badass. Cannot stop the Panzer Battalion.
David F (9 дней назад)
Sweden women and children are getting raped and gang raped by Muslims and races from Africa and the swedish men have become cowards doing nothing about it.
Anthony Palo (10 дней назад)
The Philippines was a colony of Spain, the most important thing they gave us was the Catholic Faith! Thanks West!
ARTHUR D DUDA (11 дней назад)
He waves his arms and hands a lot as he's scolding, hmmm who was that other guy who did that.. oh yeah.. HITLER !
ARTHUR D DUDA (11 дней назад)
The Christians were just reclaiming what was theirs ?? Jerusalem is in the middle east , how did it belong to white Europeans ?? It never did they just hijacked it. After the council of NICEA and the creed, many Christians ...in the middle east and Europe were slaughtered by your so called heroes , so were many jews and those they thought were wet Jews, converted jews they thought were pretending. You're not telling the whole truth of Christain Europe and there are millions upon millions more people have been killed in the name of christianity then islam.
TJ Bowman (11 дней назад)
I thought this was common knowledge. I guess people are stupider than I thought.
Stan Wilder (11 дней назад)
If you go back in history you’ll find that Muslims, Islamist have been driven out of every city (nation) they captured in Europe several hundreds of years ago. It didn’t happen overnight but it happened, they were driven back to the only place that would tolerate them, their home states / lands. It’s greatly the fault of America and our allies that their homelands have been bombed into oblivion making them unlivable. It’s no wonder they hate us so much. The one thing that has been of some protection for America and Canada has been distance, Mexico and South America have escaped infiltration because most of SA would let them starve and eliminate them.
Artenta Tramble (11 дней назад)
I see why your not teaching at University. And thank God and Muhammad, U.S. Veteran
Artenta Tramble (11 дней назад)
sounds like excuses Christan and Muslims having slaves Even if you are right, you or in directly spreading hate, I guess the new thing is to remind people of what your enemy did, how one take credit. but remember this people of color still get the worst, this guy is spreading hate and he is trying to start something that when it's time to fight he will run. this is not the type of education we need remember his lesson was on the crusades and the next thing you know, he's motivating hate tell people don't be ashamed or fill guilty for things that happened sounds like he's trying to start a race war
Kishore Bajaj (13 дней назад)
Islam could have been wiped out clean to the man with the conclusion of the crusades. Christian charity is now paying a very heavy price. Islamic shit.
Fishing Rod (14 дней назад)
Well put together Sr.!
Maude Mathilde H (14 дней назад)
Zoroastrian Religion gave us Freddie Mercury👍👍 Loved that comment. Crazy Queen fan here🤗
Stephen Davies (14 дней назад)
So called western civilization is far from perfect and has a bloody history genocide of indigenous people, slavery, colonialism and imposing Christianity on other races that doesn't sound very civilised to me and before people start I am not a fan of multiculturalism or Islam either because let's face it religion is a backwards belief based on superstition with no evidence to prove its ridiculous claims and I am very proud to be a atheist who believes in science and evolution and feel a better person for it.
Sirfroz somji (14 дней назад)
stefan molyneux "Don't do to us what we'd do to you," is what you mean 6:41-3 7:56 Mexicans are invading arabs ???? 8:13-16 you had christians sacking and looting the church in Costantinople 1204 no mention of very wealthy large jewish community there in spain since the phoenician times, who for the most part welcomed the muslim invasion and aided the muslims by opening the gates and closing others to the catholics army and joined in the muslim ranks . So you had mixed armies of jews and moors . 14:01 jizya is a tribute or compensation like the roman, not tax and not exobitant and established by previous byzantine and persian rulers, not every one was forced to pay. there were exemptions like the women, children, elders, handicapped, the ill, the insane, the monks, hermits, slaves and short term non-muslim residents. Now the rates varied depending on whether the person was rich or poor, but did not exceed the fixed limits not just on the whim of muslim rulers.You mentioned kharaj a non- muslim land tax not always or exclusively and I don't see the figure exceeding more then 10% in all forms of taxation in all territories under islamic rule . jizya is an yearly tax. dhimmi means protected person under the law and you were exempted from certain duties which the muslims were obligated to and had equality in regards to property, contract and obligations.
Sirfroz somji (15 дней назад)
Stefan Molyneux google the fourth crusade where the crusader got sidetracted into going to Constantinople to bring about a failed coup for which they were promised payments which didn't materialise and so they went on a rampage or a conquest of the city, this happened in 1204 and captured and plundered the enormous wealth of the city and merrily went on their way home. Most of them did, anyway
Sirfroz somji (15 дней назад)
stefan molyneux when the christians were in control of jerusalem there were no jews. when caliph umar arrived and asked where were the jews? He was told they were kicked out because they were troublesome. He said - no that cannot be right, they have to be brought back. Interestingly enough, amongst the muslim forces were some jews
Sirfroz somji (15 дней назад)
Stefan Molyneux just freddie mercury? Zoroastrianism is the father of judaism, christianity and islam, and also hinduism and to lesser extent , buddhism - heaven and hell, the last day, the day of judgement, the concept of the messiah, the concept of angels, holy spirit etc
Justin Lewis (15 дней назад)
Overall factual and well-presented but you could really lose the Mussolini type ranting it's pathetic
frnkguard1 (15 дней назад)
I’m not gay but I Love You man
wizzolf schaferhund (15 дней назад)
The Christians need to take a page out of the playbook of islam and reappropriate lands once under Christendom as though the Christian god would smite them if they didn’t.
wizzolf schaferhund (15 дней назад)
This is a multi-view, revisit a lot, video, much like all your videos!
Stefan Molyneux (15 дней назад)
michaelg quain (16 дней назад)
Islam and Christianity are both just as bad as one another in history. Catholic’s murdering Protestants, Protestants murdering Catholic’s. The abuse of women especially by the Catholic Church. Women were nothing in that church for hundreds of years. The murder of millions of natives especially in the Americas. The destruction of their civilisations there writing and theft of their gold. Come on, both these religions are very good at murder in gods name.
Rebecca Smith (17 дней назад)
It's kind of frightening to Consider we are not only rolling out the welcome mat and accepting pockets of Sharia law in our democratic countries we are also giving up our Christianity in droves
Tim Dewulf (17 дней назад)
going to the moon ; if the ottomans won you think we would have gone to the moon?
MrThabe7hum (17 дней назад)
1. You just admitted to Christian corruption! 2. You are Jew with a turbulent agenda. You want Europe to clash with its own growing population! 3. I plead with Moslems and Christians to not listen to Jewish troublemakers. This man is one of them. He wants you to clash so his Israel can oppress both of you. Next time you clash, there is nowhere to go! There is a mutual enemy. It's in Palestine. This man combines people under "history," and claims a methodical behavior, then slaps it, as a treadmark, to this religion, and that! History is not that simple. There are details. There billions of people involved! This man thinks he understood it all! He is comical, in his explanations. And, he is full of hate. Notice how he talks!.. People, you are not responsible for others and for what have done. You cannot even verify that! So, be wise, charitable, and loving to one another. Do NOT listen to this Zionist hate monger. Thank you
wally gevers (17 дней назад)
Well spoken, I agree emphatically.
Alberto Baptista (18 дней назад)
I thank you.
al moe (18 дней назад)
Even when you are an atheist you are biased. Remember the catholics in the middle east were persecuted by orthodox christians and vice versa. The Arabs many who were pagan, catholics, orthodox, and zorostrians were involved in these religious conflicts. Islam viewed contextually ended this conflict by decimating Christian foreign influence. The Arab Muslims and non Arab Muslims understood how much European Christians were scheming with their Middle Eastern Christian brethren to recon queries their former domain. Now you can say whatever you want about Islam regarding its teachings but you cannot deny the Byzantines and Vatican always plotted to reenter this area and the Muslims always pushed them back until the Muslims no longer understood what Islam was really about. Islam became a religion when in its essence it was an ideology of preservation against the onslaught of Christian invasion in the name of salvation!. I personally think Islam was never intended to be a religion but Arab Christians with hypocrite muslims added bible stories and concentrated on hatred of the jews. Where do we find hatred of the jews? In the new testament and so goes my hypothesis that the quran was turned into a Christian book for non europeans to halt the true intention of Mohammad which was to end the Christian oppression. Any violence in the quran was a response to Christian violence. Oh, I am an arab atheist by the way so I do not defend any religion but to paint the Arab and non Arab muslims as mere seekers of conquest is dishonest or misinformation. Christian fundamentalists til this day plot to reconquer the middle east but instead of calling it modern crusades it is called war on terrorism.
Jeff (18 дней назад)
history peppered with modern right wing nonsense
407ForRent (20 дней назад)
I love you comments just subbed👍
OddityDK (21 день назад)
Damn that was good. Thanks Stefan. I tried to tell a friend about this yesterday. How western civilization has lost it’s identity and history and is on the brink of destruction. Listed those same things Stefan did, the greek philosophers, the printing press, scientific method, human rights, democracy etc. His response, well Europe was going downhill long before this wave of immigration and is just getting what it deserves. It’s so incredibly frustrating, I feel like a one-eyed man in a world of the blind. No one, and I mean no one, I know has any idea what the reformation, renaissance and enlightenment was, know nothing about the Greeks or Romans. Their knowledge of our history goes back to WWII, beyond that it’s ...some revolution in France, slave trade and the evil crusades. We are doomed. I don’t even have children (45 yo), they do, and their children will pay the price for their stunning and willful ignorance. Imagine this great civilization one day being mentioned along with the Romans, Egyptians, Mayans etc. as something that once was. People seem to think that is a ridiculous notion, well the Egyptians existed for thousands of years, I bet they thought so to.
james kelby (21 день назад)
The 10th crusade will be the greatest.
leigh pierce (23 дня назад)
The crusades - A group of people on a long trek to the med to get some good spirits, on the way there, demons would make them work for those spirits! and so the spirits would taste even better after them struggles!
João Martins (23 дня назад)
Well, basically it was Islam that was responsible for the Crusades…? Not the Christians that went as crusaders, right? It was ALL Islam! Well done in bringing truth to surface...
Vanessa Wright (23 дня назад)
From the get-go, Islam and Muslims slaughtered thier way across the world. They have never stopped and never will.
Freedom Fighter (24 дня назад)
After all the hard work to preserve Europe from Islam, now it may fall because of Leftist agenda.
Sentinel UK (24 дня назад)
WiliS S (25 дней назад)
Damm im starting to feel better about the colour of my skin , and the TRUE history has done it for me... THANK YOU MR MOLYNEUX !!
Samuel Allen (25 дней назад)
I wish this video had 30 million views, not 1 million. Well 330 million would be much better, but gotta wish for something to start. Unfortunately people would rather watch some guys drop a bowling ball off a huge tower onto random stuff. It even gets sponsors to buy the stuff. Maybe you could incorporate that somehow?
jamie turnage (25 дней назад)
we have a crusade agin their want be a muslim left .this will be the last crusade
Aaron Stone (25 дней назад)
The one thing it seems he is missing is the "why" part. Why did Muslims invade North Africa, Constantinople, etc. Any historical quotes on that? I found the following. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_Caliphate Muawiyah also encouraged peaceful coexistence with the Christian communities of Syria, granting his reign with "peace and prosperity for Christians and Arabs alike",[40] and one of his closest advisers was Sarjun, the father of John of Damascus. At the same time, he waged unceasing war against the Byzantine Roman Empire. During his reign, Rhodes and Crete were occupied, and several assaults were launched against Constantinople. After their failure, and faced with a large-scale Christian uprising in the form of the Mardaites, Muawiyah concluded a peace with Byzantium. Muawiyah also oversaw military expansion in North Africa (the foundation of Kairouan) and in Central Asia (the conquest of Kabul, Bukhara, and Samarkand). This leads me to believe that the first attempted invasion on Constantinople was more about power rather than a religious struggle. The Romans had been pushing back on several religions including Christians, Muslims and Jews. In the early days of Islam there were stories of Muhammad hiding in caves to escape polytheists who were trying to murder him. So while I think this video does quote several historical facts I think those facts were selected to fit a specific narrative. History is a lot more complex than just a list of dates and wars.
YouveBeenGreeked (26 дней назад)
sharon kerr (26 дней назад)
The most commonly known Crusades are the campaigns in the Eastern Mediterranean aimed at recovering the Holy Land from Muslim rule , but the term "Crusades" is also applied to other church-sanctioned campaigns. These were fought for a variety of reasons including the suppression of paganism and heresy , the resolution of conflict among rival Roman Catholic groups, or for political and territorial advantage. At the time of the early Crusades the word did not exist, only becoming the leading descriptive term around 1760.
Bill Etem (7 дней назад)
Will Durant said the word 'crusades' comes from the Spanish word cruzado, which means marked with the cross. The Spaniards were using the word long before 1760.
The13Inquisitor (26 дней назад)
Kevin Pursley (27 дней назад)
Truth about Fortnite next ?
Pamela Krueger (27 дней назад)
If you watch this videos he says, “ death toll over 14 centuries of Muslim slave trade in Africa is estimated at over 112 million” Over 1 million Europeans abducted and enslaved.
Pamela Krueger (27 дней назад)
Watch Magnificent Century, a Netflix show that reflects a rather lovely view of the Ottoman Empire. In spite of this, there’s no hiding the fact that ppl were killed, subjugated, and women were abducted as sexual slaves. In fact, one such women falls in love with her rapist. ( who also killed her family to kidnap her) It’s just a show, it may not all be factual, but it rings true in many ways considering historical accounts of Muslim empires.
MegaDh2000 (27 дней назад)
You are a man of great intellect and articulation. I wish more people could hear your words.
frank nelson (28 дней назад)
Great Great video.........glad I found it.
The Cup of Truth (28 дней назад)
It’s incredibly real when looking from both sides, Islam and the World which most Christians live and gives them Islam the right to do what they do. The Worldly ways are from Satan to keep our eyes off Jesus and need I say the other. Repent while you can and fast and pray a lot of praying then stand up with the Armor of Christ and The Sword Of God for Truth will set us free. So tankful that the Lord allowed me to watch this , Thanks Be To God.
Underp4ntz (28 дней назад)
The Truth is... We need another one!
Fractal Mandelbrot (29 дней назад)
Your modern day terrorists like ISIS is still funded by the Vatican, and mossad, and CIA. Order out of chaos..the Jesuits are still,waging war on Christians in Balkans, Ukraine, Russia, Greece, Syria..etc.
Master Assassin (20 дней назад)
No more from the 300 mil muslims that share theres belives and some mullas that spit out hatred in some moske and at koran school's about the jews and theres land Israel christians. And isis is a sunni muslim organisation so it origins is the middle east becuse of the syria arab army that mostly are shia muslim and they have been in islamic nation's for year's but when usa invaded irak some old from saddam's army join them and they started this so called califat by invading irak then syria but all terror organisations are sunni or shia muslims with hatred so dont tell lies as this is the truth we can say iran and irak war or saudi arabia or jemen war is also to blame for theres hatred as a bet you know sunni dont like the shia muslims so there you go same going for shia hating sunni islam and all terrorist in this world are muslims same as you telling this lies but not all muslims are terrorist just see for yours self and you now a tell the truth. Realy you will never see the truth but only yours ones lies and you not a muslim just a fake one that think you are a muslim inshallah my allah see you as a hater not as a beliver.
Fractal Mandelbrot (29 дней назад)
Your research must of came from western libraries that hid the truth, because the crusaders are all CIA operatives. The templars used the muslims to invade Byzantium empire so they could loot Constantinople. You don’t mention all the gold that was stolen from Agia Sofia, and Comstantinople under the orders of the Pope. They were shipped to Vinice, and this is how the Vatican was build. the luciferian church and One World religion under the jesuits/ freemasons. Most of these finds are in the Eastern countries that recorded accurate accounts of these even, and is hidden from the people.
Figel the Great (29 дней назад)
Deus vult!
15230 (29 дней назад)
ishe nicole (29 дней назад)
YOUR knowledge of ancient babylonian pagan history is very poor. you need history classes....
goodnotgreatt (1 месяц назад)
Christians did the same before Islam lol.
A D (1 месяц назад)
I love hearing things I know to be true
Gustavo Icaza (1 месяц назад)
We need you to do a "MUST READ" list of books
d Turner (1 месяц назад)
Its a little tough to put that on your 1040
d Turner (1 месяц назад)
They would be like “hey, you would be a good slave.” They probably enslave easily 20% of foreign workers like Philippinos
colleen mcnally (1 месяц назад)
Love your videos
lili al (1 месяц назад)
Jay Peterson (1 месяц назад)
Really enjoyed the video (and I am a fellow historian) However, the term "Byzantine Empire" is a Victorian Age invention. The "byzantine" Empire was the Roman Empire -maybe the Eastern Roman Empire. Byzantium was the original city/town/settlement where Constantinople was built.
Rob Hill (18 дней назад)
This history has been kept from Western minds. It's important that we understand the nature of our enemy, who is still living in the 7th Century, fighting jihad, and who's culture is grossly incompatible with modern Western values. Their only guard against the realization that their culture is inferior in every way is the dogma that their moral superiority gives them the right to dehumanize unbelievers, and the authority to destroy them. The very existence of Western Civilization is an extant threat to their claim of a monopoly on truth.
knowitallll (1 месяц назад)
Muslims have proven to be a disease throughout history
Ivan The Terrible (1 месяц назад)
Can we just agree that everyone was horrible always? It's really not that hard...
Prince Of Dubai (1 месяц назад)
*_the european parasites were thrown out of the Middle East and North Africa as romans, crusaders, colonialists, terrorists, and under all pretenses and in all forms_* *_You european parasites will never learn that the Middle East and North Africa are not european soil until the last one of you is slaughtered and sent back to the hell that spawned you_*
Christian TheOne (19 дней назад)
Prince of Dubai The only parasites, ETERNAL PARASITES OF EVERY COUNTRY AND EVERY CIVILIZATION ARE THE MUSLIM SCUMS! Take your Muslim parasites out of Europe NOW. They don't belong here, they belong in hell with your pedophile warmonger false prophet muhammad. Burqa and your barbaric law and your DEATH CULT do not belong to Europe either, so... Fuck off!
Ryan Cutforth (21 день назад)
The Quran say's the devil eats and drinks with his left hand. What a shame that the Muslims vote with their left hand too. So what's it like to be in a political alliance with Satan, Muslim?
Richard Harris (1 месяц назад)
I thank you so much for making your position clear. It is fortunate for your fellow muslims in Europe that we are not nearly as barbaric or territorial in our outlook.
Prince Of Dubai (1 месяц назад)
*_Good job Salah alddin ... Remove Pork_*
Joe Copa (1 месяц назад)
The crusaders were a response to Muslim aggression.
Andy Estrada (1 месяц назад)
Nicely done Stefan.
Greg Horne (1 месяц назад)
Sickening. Politics of division. Heavy on rhetoric, low on solutions. Seems to be the pattern with this guy. Pandering to the legions of angry white men. HE IS USING YOU! HE IS GETTING RICH OFF OF YOUR ANGER! Im just learning about how rampant this alt-right echo-chamber shit is. Sickening.
Clay Richard (1 месяц назад)
All religions are piles of smelly bullshit.
Clay Richard (1 месяц назад)
If a religion can "fall", it couldn't have been created by an all powerful god, so it's clearly bullshit.
Beagle (1 месяц назад)
what about those who wear the Red fez? think about that ne, 40,000 Christians Slaughtered ,the River of blood , the Moslems took there Brown Fez and dipped it in the blood,  to this day ANY one who wears the Red Fez Celebrates in memory of that slaughter, so Shame on those who wear it.
Dave Randle (1 месяц назад)
Clearly at 14:30 he tells a lie. Look up the percentage of tax. It was less for non Muslims then it was for Muslims. So why did he humiliate himself and claim that Christians became Muslim because the tax was so high. I'm telling you the reason Christianity as whole failed is because of re-writing scriptures of thee God and ridiculously incorrect records of history. See when you lie you leave holes everywhere that you can't fill.
Dave Randle (1 месяц назад)
This is a prospective. Not the truth. The reason why Christianity fell and continues to fall are due rewriting scriptures and wildly inaccurate historical records by European historians. Believe it or not.
Sydney Baker (1 месяц назад)
Leftists would hear this message as if it was a KKK meeting, but they are totally wrong, as usual. Islam is an in invasive cancer, like communism and socialism and must be fought, not coddled and welcomed in so they may slaughter us wholesale. Those who ignore history, are doomed to repeat it.
MASTER BLASTER (1 месяц назад)
Current generation has no understanding of anything - America will go communist in 5 years
Julien (1 месяц назад)
you dont really believe it the motherload of bad happenings in europe has any clue of history and if she does she certainly doesn't give a shit
Harry Forsyth (1 месяц назад)
Get the sabaton lads, it's time to ride for Jerusalem DEUS VULT!
KidDerby (1 месяц назад)
The world would be better off if there was no religion. NONE. Then when you act like a jackass.....you're just a jackass.

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