The idea of generations is not a new one. But the authors William Strauss and Neil Howe came up with a theory that could potentially allow us to reasonably predict the future. They have detailed the generational history of the U.S. population and found reoccurring rhythmic themes that can be used to look into the future!
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Months ago I was listening to an interview with Tony Robbins who said that if he could recommend any book to read he would recommend a book published in 1991 called Generations: The History of America’s Future. Because it was Tony Robbins, and I treat everything he says as gold, I had to read it. In it, the authors William Strauss and Neil Howe argue that there are themes in the past which we can use to make predictions about the course of the future. As skeptical as I was at first, the more I read, the more it seemed to make sense. Many might say that the authors are trying to determine the future of millions of people who have yet to be born. But that isn’t really what they’re talking about. Their book takes a broad look at the generations of people over the past 500 years of U.S. history and has found reoccurring themes in the “personality” of each generation and in how generations follow repeating patterns. They found that there are four reoccurring types of generations, that each generation lasts on average 22 years, and that the four types of generations arrive in the same repeating sequence. By understanding this, we can potentially predict the characteristics of the next generation of people along with probable reactions that generations may have to historical events. The authors make no claim that the future can be determined, but instead state that it is history that makes the generation while simultaneously the generation making history.
The first important thing to understand in Howe’s and Strauss’ theory is what they mean by generation. A generation is a cohort of people who have been born over the same time span of around 22 years – or about the length of one phase of life (like the length of childhood, young adulthood, midlife, and old age). Members of a generation share three things in common.
1. they have been born during the same time in history – in other words they have encountered the same key historical events. As a millennial, for example, I witnessed 9/11 during roughly the same time period in my life as all other millennials - childhood
And because people are shaped by the events they encounter, this leads us to
2. How they adapt similar beliefs and behaviors. As a reaction to the strong anti-Islamic sentiments after the 9/11 attacks, many of us millennials have reacted in the opposite way as our parents and country’s leaders, showing strong disapproval of generalized anti-Muslim sentiment and instead a more optimistic and open view of Muslims.
And because of each generation’s awareness of the traits they share with their peers they
3. have a sense of common perceived membership in that generation. Of course, as a millennial I feel more part of the millennial generation than any other generation.
The most recent generations have been the Baby Boomers which began in 1943 and ended in 1960, lasting 23 years. During their formative years some key historical events that the Boomers have encountered is the end of WWII, and the beginning of the Counter-Culture Movement. After the Boomers are the Gen Xers who are made up of people born between 1961 and 1981. After the Gen Xers are, the Millennials born from 1982 to 2004. And most recently the Homeland Generation born from 2005 on. What’s most interesting about the idea about generations of people, is that it is not a new one. In fact some of the past’s greatest thinkers have outlined the idea of a generation in a similar way as Strauss and Howe. Some include Polybius, Ibn Khaldun, and Jose Ortega y Gasset. The pilsopher Lewis Mumford also once said that “Every generation revolts against its fathers and makes friends with its grandfathers.” Which leads us to the next key idea: turnings.
As mentioned before, each generation lasts around 22 years and goes through particular historical and social events together. These events are called turnings and just as a generation lasts around 22 years, so do turnings. Turnings happen in a four-stage consecutive cycle and each has been given a particular name. Howe’s and Strauss’ have detailed them in U.S. history from 1435 to the present day. A full cycle of the four turnings lasts between 80-90 years. An easier way to think about a turning is to think of it as kind of like a historical mood or season.
breh someone born in 2004 is not in my generation. the cutoff for milenials is to have been alive and cognizant of 9/11 when it happened. a a kid born in 2002 now is existing totally fluidly between the internet and reality, maintains constant communication through facetime and shit. they've never had a point in their lives where there wasnt a computer at the house. I used to have to go sign out a computer at the library to play kidpix deluxe for 30 minutes.
I normally don't agree with this idea of generations, but I realize it's because majority of places who definite are buzz feed and bs sites. But I'm curious about this book now because this is more a philosophy stand point and is not based on incorrect surveys but rather studies from history. It honestly makes much more sense especially on our current political climate. The people around there early 20s will most likely come up and kind of save the nation from it's self, just has the younger generation did in the American progressive area. it's interesting how they don't say they will do one thing or the other but rather have a base characteristics and live/lead from that base. Rather then saying some Bs like all these people born from (x) - (x) eat Tide pods.
Gen z or “homelander” have been labeled as mid 90’s-2012 so 95-12 is the honelander. They’re changing it because generations have changed the way they interact due to technology advancements. Gen Z has more in common with another gen z across the world than they do with their parents or even grandparents. Generations are no longer measured by years, they’re just references now for first glance because human interaction is changing rapidly.
I think you misunderstood part of it, it's more like this...
Hard times gen. creates the strong, the strong age and enjoy good times, the good times create the un-comformed, the un-comformed age and fight back with a new ideas and clash with the strong creating the divided Gen., the divided (hard times gen.) brings them together and creates the strong, the strong forgetting the work the divided did creates good times, and then cycle continues
You have to account for each generation getting older and changing
I'm considered a Millennial since I was born in 2000.But I don't think that people born in 2004 should be considered Millennials. And the reason is because they don't remember 9/11 or was even alive when it was happening, and they never even grew up watching movies and cartoons on vhs tapes and etc. But I believe that the Millennial generation should range from 1982 to 2002 or 3.
I am just a GenXer who happens to be a "Howe and Strauss Millennial" (not a real Millennial). This is just a large group that consists of late Gen X, Gen Y, and early Gen Z. Millennial is not a generation, it's just a cohort people, accompanied by negative stereotypes given by the media.
uuuummmmm .... I dunno. Haven't looked at the book. But these terms ? They were started by insurance companies, advertisers (mad men style) and marketers. There is Zero Official reason they exist and as you show here, things change. Long ago .... 1950-1960, Statisticians and actuaries looking for significant population drifts post WWI and WWII. Insurance companies then took the data and "dumbed it down" for the sales people because the amount of data was huge, and agents needed to size up a customer, put them in a general category in about 1 minute. Graphs were made and someone just slapped some name on them. For fun I thunk . Like the "greatest generation," Tom Brokaw, I think invented this term. It was nice, warm, fuzzy, felt good to use on grand Macanese pa.....
Miscellaneous "groups" were created. Really. Random names. Dates that are +/- 9 years, depending on what the data is used for.
Now, this video drops the boomer echo and other sub groups, and once again dates are shifted around, it happens all the time. These labels are meaningless. Why accept them ? No one is "officially" anything.
It's a continuum. We are all part of one continuum that goes back 10,000 years ... maybe 300,000 years.
But I do understand, that people want to be a part of some group .... religion, politics, green, blue, skinny, tall, not tall, whitish beige, dark purple, from Mars, from the east coast, from Toronto, illumi-naughty and ....more ......
Defining anyone by age may be popular ( I don't understand this at all ) but it leads to prejudice by age.
Don't get split up by your age .... the only place where a new generation happens is within a family. Great grandma and great grandpa, grandma and grandpa, mom and dad, the kids, grand kids and .......
Don't allow this to happen ... getting judged by when you were born is going to become another problem. Judged by experiences may be a consideration. That's possible I guess.
We all are part of the human continuum. Branches of that same tree ..... I think. I could be wrong. It happens.
Pick more interesting labels for yourself. Be a group of 1 !! If you dare.
Me ? Well I'm a high efficiency ground source heat pump. I'll can warm ya up in winter's freezing weather, AND I can cool ya down in summer heat.
Hello! Great video, but I disagree with something.
Many people are not sure when Millennials end and when Generation Z (homelanders) starts, but I don't think 2005 is the best starting date. Instead, I'd say millennials end during the mid or late 90s.
Many of the things that defined the millennial generation did not have a big impact on people born during the early 2000s. I don't remember 9/11 because I wasn't even a year old, I never knew a world before high airport security, like all of the homelanders. We also had access to technology from an extremely young age and only some of us remember a time before technology, probably because their families just didn't give them access to it. It was used to educate and entertain us and has hugely affected how we learn and process the world like no other generation before us. Also,if GenZ starts in 2005, that would mean people in their 30s would be lumped in with people who just entered their teens and teens that haven't even entered the workforce yet. People born in the early 2000s don't remember the turning of the millennium, but that is why millennials are called millennials, because they came of age during that.
While yes, generations are usually defined by a 20 year time period, things can be a little fluid, especially with a rapidly changing world due to technology.
Yeah, that is a millennial influence. To be honest, I've never used VHS or cassettes XD flip-phones were dying out but I remember them (I was born in late 2000). I remember how in elementary school they'd use wikipedia to teach us stuff (and youtube of course) and we even had an interactive board (we still do). So, yeah I'd say we totally qualify as Gen-Zers,lol.
EXACTLY! I mean, I definitely do feel like my childhood did have a millennial ~shadow~ to it (VHS/cassettes, entertainment, flip phones, pop culture, etc.) because my sis is an 88er and that's a HUGE age difference but once I hit my pre-teen years, that's when my GenZ really started showing. I may have the music taste of a millennial but that's it. I have the ambitions of a GenZer.
Yeah, I also had a lot of millennials in my life but just can't relate to millennials enough when it comes to how they grew up and what they're going through right now. Most of them are in their 30s or 20s, I'm still just a teen. Kids today seem more relatable to me because they also grew up with the internet, so that only makes my point stronger.
mediocremaddie The thing is we don't know as those late borns are only starting to come of age, so to link them with of age milennials would be fruitless. Once the current generation is around done being born then the border between it and milennials will become much more clearly defined as historical events happen and the people are of age and more set in their personalities and beliefs. In my opinion, so far, I wouldn't put 2004 people as milennials. I'd push it back to around 2001. I think the turn of the century is a good border to have. I am 18 and feel like I am on the very far back end of the milennials. I much more identify with people older than me than younger than me for example. And that has always been the case for me, but again, maybe I will turn out to be more gen z than I thought once the beginning of their generation comes of age and the border becomes.more clear.
Bulbasaur agreed. Most generations can be defined by a defining moment. For millenials it was 9/11 - if you only know of it as a historical event (if you dont actually remember it) you're not a millenial
Yup, I was born in 2004, and i have to say that altough millennials had a huge part in my life (all my sibling are millennial, so we watched 90's/pre 2000's cartoons together),I still consider myself a homeland.
I think OUR forth turning is one of the most important ones in history.
If it happens in the same way other forths have we are finished as a species...
The Forth turnings so far have always involved all out war! (Where we didn't have weapons that can destroy the planet or everything living on it)
If we can get through this one without all out war, humanity will continue...
Otherwise i fear at our current technological development and weaponry this could be our last.
Nice summary. I go back and re-read sections of "Generations" and "The Fourth Turning" periodically, and it is uncanny how events are unfolding that match Strauss and Howe's general predictions. One ominous observation - each fourth turning (crisis) has ended in "total" war...
Well, not all the influence is set in the power of Millennials, ALL the generations are involved. It's just that the Millennials are COMING OF AGE during a crisis.
For instance, Baby Boomers's Awakening lead to the Collapse today that has played out- but even if they resign to creature comforts over civic engagement- they are still the Generation with the highest Political Control, and thus they are using their moral+principled stewardship to lead us all to stability in the form of war or peace.
Gen Xers having survived their nomadic childhoods, and learned valuable lessons, are now the front liners of protecting children and giving them what they never had, while also leading a pragmatic individualist stance of get-it-done leadership. They are crucial in re-defining this age or leading it to further polarization and self-preservation.
Millennials are growing up with all these dynamics in mind, but even when there is social pessimism, they still resort to optimism, civic engagement(through group-work and digital interfaces), future possibility etc. And that is why they are engaging in movements that will rebuild flailing institutions so that they have everyone's interests in mind- not just the majority or the minorities. They will either sink us into crisis or generate a re-creation.
And lastly, the Homelanders are being defined by this era of crisis, but will come-of-age after its resolution to create the new societal institutions based on Gen-X & Millennial Values- bringing a new era of Stability to the masses in some form or another.
What current patterns show is that this Stability will be in the form of highly connective+integrated Virtual Reality.
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