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PRODUCED BY KLAUS MITCHELL
SCRIPT ASSISTED BY MARIA CHIORANDO
HEALTH RESEARCH BY BRIAN HERNANDEZ
VISUAL SUPPORT BY KADEN ZIPFEL
NARRATED BY GREGG LOWE
Apologies to Professor Atze Jan van der Goot and his work, which we could not find to credit during the film. We have now tracked it down: https://www.wur.nl/en/newsarticle/Large-scale-research-aims-for-a-new-generation-of-meat-substitutes.htm
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LEARN ABOUT VEGANISM
★ Cowspiracy ➞ https://youtu.be/nV04zyfLyN4
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★ Veganuary ➞ http://www.veganuary.com/
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If you don't have time to watch the full film, here is a breakdown:
1:45 - introducing the war between cow milk and plant milk
4:35 - influence of animal ag on academia briefly introduced
5:05 - exploring the corruption in government (subsidies / collusion etc)
6:06 - introducing the negative effects of animal products and contextualizing corruption within health charities and other industries
7:40 - media misinformation
8:30 - slaying some of the common myths about animal products
9:45 - other misconceptions
10:00 - leading health stories in 2017
10:51 - dairy propaganda introduced
11:45 - health testimonies / progress
13:30 - animal agriculture's effect on environment
17:10 - people making a difference
19:50 - veganism broke growth records all over the World
20:15 - animal agriculture jumping on the plant bandwagon
20:50 - plant protein / food tech revolution
22:50 - lab based meat
23:45 - FAIRR initiative
24:18 - vegan foods became more popular commercially
25:00 - strange events in 2017 where progress was hindered
26:40 - antibiotic resistance and other crises
28:30 - media pushing a false narrative
29:30 - celebrities
33:00 - athletes going vegan
33:45 - vegan films
35:00 - dairy industry crisis followed by why the industry is wrong
38:40 - industry pushback
44:00 - vegan movement progressing
Great idea for informing people of the great health benefits of a plant based diet without the noisy background. Very distracting! I have happily been on the McDougall Starch Solution Plan for 6 years. Never tempted to go back to meat, dairy, and oil. Weight has stayed at 165lbs. I am very energetic. Where you get your Protein, and where you get your calcium is explained. There has never been a case of protein, or calcium deficiency if calorie requirement is met. I eat all I want. No deprivation. No counting, no measuring. Take only 1 supplement. Vitamin B-12. It is asy to do. It is easy not to do. It is your choice. Health, or wider plane seats. :-)
Ok I want to do this but where do you start as far as knowing what to eat and cook to where your getting all the nutrients you need? I find this to be frustrating when your clueless I’m very sick and I desperately need help someone please respond as this is life or death for me. There is so much info some drs are saying coconut oil, milk is bad for you as well as olive oil. Eating you alive Doc is good
The woman at 36.37, Abbi Reader, I was meant to spend a week on her farm for work experience to get into vet school. I spent two days and couldn’t bring myself to go back. The cows were constantly frightened, calves were kept in tiny pens for a couple of weeks before being moved into slightly bigger ones (basically they could actually turn around without hitting the sides of the pen for the first time in their lives) with a small group of other calves. One of the younger boys working there would openly hit the calves while feeding them. Some guy came to cut the nails of the cows, he would also openly hit the cows right in front of me when they got scared (bare in mind that the machine used to do this lifts them off the ground) because it would annoy him they stood on the strap that supports their bellies. The whole family would constantly laugh about killing animals, and Abbi herself said it was amazing to watch her dog rip apart a mole that was just next to the house. One guy (I think her dad but honestly I didn’t care enough to ask) said how he used to love setting his jack Russel on rats nests so that he could sit back and watch. Absolutely heartless. One cow was dying and she explained to me how she has to work out how likely it is that she’ll survive if she’s treated by a vet, to know if it’s worth paying the vet so that in a couple of months she’d bring her more than she’s paid for her in the abattoir. All she cared about was how much her body could make her. They then dragged her dead body trough the farm, past calves and pregnant mothers. Recently the EU paid for her to get a new, state of the art barn (not the word I’m looking for but it’s good enough) that cost millions, so she can do all of this to twice as many cows. Oh and also, she let a dog off the lead so that it could run and bite the cows feet while they were being milked. She said that she lets the older ones outside but they tend to prefer being inside, not able to understand that they had spend they’re whole life indoors, forcefully, without older cows so they had no idea how to act normally, so being out in the open was inevitable going to be scary to them. I honestly couldn’t believe it.
Im a vegan of five years!!!!! I have never felt better than i do now! I have energy, good skin, im not gonna lie, i HAVE lost weight. U dont get those nasty burps do to indigestion. I feel better than ever. And im only 15. I knew that people were doing wrong by animals when i was small and in turn turned my mother vegan. Ive seen changes in her health that are phenomenal. People NEED to change NOW. A thirty minute meal is not worth a life. They feel pain, they feel the neglect, they feel the torchure. Dont u find it sad, that in their whole life until the point of getting slaughtered..they have never felt the love they deserve? I can go on and on, but i feel this comment is getting too long already😅~ Kendra Mireles
a balanced diet low in processed food, no processed meat. including some meat/fish/dairy/eggs eliminates the need for supplementation of b12 etc you might need on a vegan diet. i think everyone kind of knows this already, but there's no money in saying "eat a balanced diet".
yes i understand you don't think animals should be eaten, but want to understand why exactly. i don't think veganism is the most healthy diet for people, but i do think it can be very healthy. i do think a vegan diet is better for the planet. i think it is debatable as to whether it is better for the animals, as most livestock would never live at all if it weren't for the fact that they will one day be food. i'm certainly in support of veganism, but am interested in the reality and the ethics, not just the fuzzy feelings :)
+eeeaten I dont think animals should be eaten PERIOD. Its better for the people, its better for the planet, and its better for the animals. U seem passionate toward veganism, #respect . But u have to realize i feel the same way☺
Have you ever seen advertisements saying : Eat more organic non GMO fruit?
Of course not, no money in it.
I grew up being forced as a child to eat meat and dairy. I was sick, sick sick. I suffered greatly. All children do. A flu and cold is awful.
I wish I had Vegan parents, once I grew up and did my own research I was very mad at my parents. It took me years to forgive them. Please respect all the reasons why you should be Vegan for your children and grandchildren.
Now I'm healthier then I ever was as a child or teen. .
Fruit Fruit, Fruit. Organic non GMO with the flesh, seeds and skin of possible. At least 2000-3000 calories daily. Most days only fruit. Eat it or : Put the entire fruits into a vitamix. It's perfect from heaven given to us. Add veggies, salads, seeds, nuts, beans and certain grains if you like and your helping everyone on earth, due to helping the oceans, seas, lakes and planet, the animals and your health. Having high energy and no pain ever no matter how hard you work out is fantastic! Vegan top fit healthy athletes in my group. Many of us for many many years. You could pay non of us any amount to damage the planet and animal lives. Also by us being Vegan we're helping your quality of life. If every human being would eat animals this planet may already be so polluted, we would live in bubbles. Caged. .Go Vegan. You were told. New Earth is Vegan only!
eeeaten btw NASA dot gov spells out how your being fumigated. The few people who don't know by now that your being fumigated by planes, look into the sky and look at Chemtrail pilots on Facebook bragging.
i do jniw my facts. i don't care about your specific anecdotal experience. vitamin d is made by your skin when exposed to sunlight. you can _also_ get it by eating some animal products.
b12 comes from bacteria but animals _contain_ it - that's the point. you get b12 from eating animal products or from supplementing. no plants contain it.
"more meat eaters then Vegans are lacking" - nope, vegans are more often b12 deficient than any other group - there's plenty of evidence including this: http://www.epic-oxford.org/publications/1554/serum-concentrations-of-folate-and-votamin-b12-by-diet-group
"most soil is ruined by MANS pesticides and meat eaters are so " glued up " they can not absorb." - this is made up nonsense.
"Iron should only come from green leafy veggies" - "should"? why? there's just as much iron in meat.
"heavy metals" - that stuff you said was just crazy nonsense.
" look up in the sky, your being fumigated" - you know how i know you're crazy?
eeeaten Jniw your facts first!! On a meat, dairy and egg diet I was low on all those. Since I've been Vegan I'm great.
Vitamin D comes from the sun NOT ANIMALS
B12 comes from the soil and more meat eaters then Vegans are lacking as most soil is ruined by MANS pesticides and meat eaters are so " glued up " they can not absorb.
Iron should only come from green leafy veggies. Not heavy metals. Heavy metal iron that the animals ingest from chewing on metal cages they are kept in and toxic vaccines will give you Altzheimers, Dementia, ALS, and more.
People are normally over exposed to toxic heavy metal iron, iron is not iron in bloodtest. Unless you ask for a sensitive screening.
And everything else I get from the plant kingdom. I buy only organic to support organic farmers and not to give Monsanto and Co my money. If organic is tainted, look up in the sky, your being fumigated. Wake up.
My bloodtest are as perfect
as ever and my hair analysis ( way more accurate from top lab shows everything) blood is acute, not reliable.
Fair enough humans shouldn't drink cows milk BUT it pees me off when they say milk causes negative health issues, thats just rubbish, otherwise baby cows would have diabetes, cancer and heart disease. The mothers milk is truly nourishing to their babies and helps them grow big and strong. so stop dissing milk. the real problem is the way we process it.
humans aren't cows, so the fact that calves grow healthy on cow's milk doesn't mean humans would. you certainly shouldn't give human babies cow's milk.
no, the problem is not "the way we process it" - we hardly do anything to it.
some people are lactose intolerant (most of the world in fact, but only about 10% or less of european people) so those people shouldn't drink it.
otherwise i agree with you - if you're not lactose intolerant or a baby, cow's milk is healthy and nutritious.
Guess what, I'm not carnist, I simply try to be as aware as possible to what is the true in all this information/disinformation era of internet.
Check recent Science profs, and how we are all destroying our health based on the past wrong ideas BASED no real studies!
Open your MIND!
I became a vegan due to a health crisis about a year ago. I was stricken suddenly with severe eczema over my entire body. It was pure torture. I discovered one of the main triggers was processed meat, which I ate on occasion. Even homemade kefir triggered an attack of severe itching. After 3 doctors failed to help in any way, I turned to the internet, and found people who had cured themselves of eczema by following a whole food plant based vegan diet. Now I am one of them. I'm cured of eczema. All 3 doctors had told me there was no cure.
When I was dignosed with gout. The list of gout causing foods weren’t in my current diet. I was eating beans of all kinds excessively. I stopped eating beans for one year and never had a reoccurance. Why is it?
That is a though one, but I'll gladly help. There are several things that can be done.
1. Best thing is to show them, not to tell them. So maybe start cooking now and then, making delicious vegan food increased my mothers intrest in veganism. Served her vegan pancakes when talking to her about my change.
2. I don't really know what kind of fun they made of you, but I think to understand veganism, it's a good thing to understand the general logic behind it. That is why it might be useful to show them Cowspiracy or the Speech by Gary Yourofsky (https://youtu.be/es6U00LMmC4?t=109). But since it's over an hour long, the Speech by Earthling Ed might be the best thing to show them (https://youtu.be/Z3u7hXpOm58)
3. Of course, maybe they don't want to watch it, which is why it is a good idea to watch and internalize those arguments made in those speeches. Furthermore, it might be a good idea to watch Earthling Ed's "30 excuses" playlist (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mjVwVDDI8E&list=PL03LZR09P2gQJyBgHk_XE8gbj8j9uFs8G) and read a bit of the MYTHS- and WHY-sections on veganuary.com
4. Don't get loud or angry. Trying to force any of this on them will lead to a hostile atmosphere and they will not listen to what you have to say any longer. Always stay friendly and talk to them about it when both them and you want to. Maybe go up to them and say something along the lines of "Hey there, mum. I want to talk to you about why I want to go vegan and see what you have to say to that." - Btw, one-on-one-conversations are the best thing, I think. - Politely talk to them about the issues and why it's important to you and ask them to respect your thoughts and choices.
That's what worked for me. My mother was sceptical, I had a 4 hour long talk with her and ever since she does not only endorse my veganism, but has stopped eating meat daily.
Hope that helps. But remember: The best thing is not to always talk about it, but to show it's possible. Don't force it on them, don't be missonarily. Hope I could help, good luck!
If you have any questions, I'm happy to help! :)
PS: Parents have a hard time admitting that they have been wrong. That's why they can be unimaginably stubborn.
PSS: So if they say "Wah, it's not that bad, stop being a soy boy" just shove Earthlings (nationearth.com) down their throat and let them cry cause of it. (just kidding. ;D)
Being a vegetarian for 45 years and a VEGAN for 15, this is a very special time of my life, seeing this documentary I know that I am not alone like it used to be, and seeing so many people becoming VEGAN is the most wonderful gift I ever had in my entire life.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK, WE HAVE TO FIGHT TILL THE END, AND I WILL GIVE MY LIFE IN EXCHANGE FOR ANIMAL FREEDOM
The Okinawas (so yeah, Japan) used to be the longest living population on the planet - they are the ones with the least animal products in their traditional foods. So you are endorsing veganism with that argument.
India is not exclusively vegan, parts are mostly vegan. However, they have a lot of infrastructure and hygienical problems. Moreover, they have to deal with overpopulation.
Please people before you go vegan talk whit a dietician . long term veganism is very bad . if you become deficient on vitamin b12 . d . omega 3 and all the animal nutrients u basically slowly killing urself . we need meat period
+Seraph Piano Sheets yea we need a plant based diet is part of a healthy diet more than 70 percent of our diet should be a plant based diet . but we cant survive for long whitout some meat or milk . theres some forms of nutrients that we need from meat that our bodies barely get on plants . for example iron . theres alot of iron on dark leafy vegetables and beans but thats non heme iron . we need more than 10.servings of beans or vegetables 2 meet our iron requirements . but we only need one serving of beed to meet our iron requirements . i try the vegan diet for 2 years and i was killing myself. I was so sick at the point that i lost my job. And i almost lost my family . and i was eating everything. Vegetables. Fruits . grains . beans . nuts . seeds spices i was eating all vegetables like 5 times a day i even though that the way i was feeling was due to something else other than my diet . i was takin vitamin b12 . vitamin d and omega 3 pills . so at my desperation i went to do a complete blood work and it show that i was deficient iron . zinc. Folate . and protein . and my doctor told me that by eating meat it was the safest way to get those nutrients back . immediately i start eating alot of meat and in 1 week i was feeling like a new person it just turn me 180 . my advice to u is before you play whit other people health get the real facts on why we need to eat meat . now if people look for ahealthy diet they need to focus on how to get all the vitamins minerals. Amino acids. Fats and nutrients that our body needs not just to eat vegetables only cause they sound healthy . theres alot of non animal foods that are causing more problems to people than animal foods look at gluten . i never heard of celiacs having issues digesting meat . only wheat and wheat is not meat .alot of people get very sick when they eat soy or nuts they get very bad allergic reaction . vegetables comes whit antinutrients that bind mineral absorption. And i never heard of people having this problems whit meat i digest meat better than vegetables . no matter what people say veganism is just not right it makes no sense . lookat olinawa japan the capital of the oldest people in the world . they eat alot of vegetables but they eat meat 2 they even eat porn and a large variety of seafood . koreans they have the lowest rates of heart desease in the world and they eat all kind of meat . france have the 5 largest life expectancy and 3lower cases of heart diseases in the world and they eat alot of meat and diary . i can go on and on and on so please open your eyes
That is simply untrue.
The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, which is the United States' largest organization of food and nutrition professionals, has stated that a vegan diet is safe for all stages of live, including childhood and pregnancy.
You think they would just forget about amino acids? Every essencial amino acid can either be aquired from plants or be produced by our body to a satisfying amount.
Thats not enough proof is still inposible to survive whitoud meat , our body need some nutrients in the form that only animals can give us for example taurine our body make some but not enough we still need to get some from meat
By the way, I wanna add: Going vegan without a basic understanding of nutrients and without a well-balanced diet can be very dangerous and lead to deficiencies. B12, D and Omega 3 are serious concerns and any vegan should know of these problems. So yeah, it has risks, but it is not impossible. We don't need meat to survive or thrive.
B12 is made by bacteria that naturally live in the ground and water. That's why it is in untreated water or soil. Before the industrialization, natural water sources (like rivers, ponds, lakes) were not spoiled, it was possible to drink from them and only one liter of untreated water contains way more than 3µg of B12, which is the recommended daily dosis. However, the water we drink nowadays is cleared and treated, because it would be unhealthy for us otherwise. That's why cou can't get B12 from that natural soucre.
After the industrialization we began harvesting in huge monocultures, exploiting the resouces in the ground and killing the majority of bacteria living in it. In the right conditions, vegetables like broccoli, potatoes, crops and others had lots of B12 in them, but the way we harvest and treat them leads to a lack of B12 in our food. That's why it's not easy to get B12 from plants either.
18% of Americans have a B12 deficiency, but only 1% of Americans is vegan, so it is not only a vegan problem. In fact, the food we feed to livestock is lacking B12 as well. This is why most livestock is being fed B12 pills. We eat B12 supplements through supplementing the livestock's food.
So yeah, B12 is a problem and (not only) vegans should supplement. But supplements are never as good as a real and good source, you are completely right about that.
However, it is possible to get it without supplementing or eating an animal: If you have a garden or access to a garden, it is possible to grow your own food in a sustainable matter. Most gardens nowadays have few bacteria in them, meaning they have few B12 in them, but you can easily buy bacteria cultures online, which you can put in your soil. By growing food yourself like that, it's a natural and good source of B12.
I am vegetarian of 25 years. I had raised my son the same. I was lacto ovo but now vegan. It is wonderful what you are doing but what of cruelty to humans? My son was ripped from me because I didnt take him to unsupervised visits with an abusive person who is a pathological liar, whose family lies for him and apparently was a drug dealer and his father a drug dealer. My son was taken at 1.5 years old. I see him in supervised visits every two weeks for 90 minutes. Added up it is less than two days time in a year. My son was kidnapped for drug money. NO ONE CARES!
I thought this film was quite informative and I will be recommending it to my animal eating friends. I was disappointed, as an ethical vegan, that lab grown meat was not pointed out as unethical in that it still exploits animals. And of course the term "vegan" gets lumped in with the term plant-based which are 2 entirely different forms of eating, veganism is based on the respect for animals and not doing them harm, while plant-based is what some people use a eating style for health and athletic reasons but are not based on cruelty-free living
Dave and I are in the process of eating healthier under the supervision of a cardiologist. There is less chance for diabetes, cancer, & heart disease with a plant based diet. For many , a plant based diet has reversed diabetes & heart disease. Plant based diets have proven themselves with many Doctor's studies. Cutting down on dairy products has helped my breathing immensely. No puffer needed for 10 days now. (Pat). Many great recipes & in formation can be found @ www.4leafprogram.com & www.nutritionalfacts.org
Went Vegan for 9 months recently. It was difficult at the start as I was always hungry. After a few weeks I go used to my new lifestyle. Sadly I had difficulties during my journey with digestion, bloating and lack of Vitamin D. Low Vitamin B12 made me feel weak (even with supplements) and removing Dairy and replacing with Soy has increased my Estrogen levels which has made me feel less masculine and manly. I have lost muscle mass and felt weak and unmotivated 100% Vegan. I suffered serve depression and anxiety and eventually started eating chicken, fish and eggs again. My taste buds have changed, I don't enjoy meat as much but it definitely sends a chemical reaction in my brain which makes me feel good...so now I ask the question...why does something have to die in order for my brain to feel good. When is a plant diet not making me feel amazing. It's really hard to find what works for me. I'm trying to be 100% vegan but I can't hit 100% without feeling like shit.
Non Vegan chiming in here: If you guys haven't read T. Colin Campbell's book entitled "The China Study", then you're missing out on and amazing rea concerning epidemiology as it concerns the American diet! I a hair from going vegan. Im actually flexitarian. One day Popeye's chicken wont taste so good to my black ass!
Vegans are a funny bunch, they say "this doctor or this source says this or that about veganism so you should be vegan because a doctor says it."
Then if you point out any professionals or research which challenges those ideas they just say "but you can't believe that because doctors and professionals lie and research is faked to show what the professionals want it to show"
Do you people realise that we all literally have the power of the internet and conceivably infinite information access at our literal fingertips? Anything any person says can be verified or debunked in a matter of seconds. When non-vegans state that organ meat (especially liver) are the highest sources of most of our essential nutrients and amino acids, when people show strong correlations between processed plant foods such as grains and sugar with chronic disease and when people show both the high correlation and the causation of diets high in processed foods, grains and sugars with disease then these things can be verified in an instant. When people state that every single essential nutrient we need is in animal products and the only nutrient humans intake which is not essential - carbohydrates - is devoid in animal products nearly but very high in plant products, these things can be verified as truth. Even right now, anyone can Google what I've stated and verify it's truth in an instant.
- Carbohydrates are not essential - all other essential nutrients are in high concentrations in animal products, especially organ meat. Carbohydrates are virtually devoid in animal products, though extremely high in plant products.
- The strongest correlation with poor health and chronic disease is processed foods primarily (ironically of which are mostly plant foods) and high intakes of highly processed grains and sugar. There are exactly zero studies which supposedly purport the damage of meat and animal foods in one's diet. Amidst all the propaganda, the takeaway is that Coca-cola and Oreo's are vegan, if vegan is healthy and non-vegan is unhealthy, then people should thrive on a diet of Coca-cola and Oreos... Yet somehow, ironically, the science keeps pointing towards sugar, grains and heavily processed foods/ junk food (of which most are sugar, grain and plant products, not animal products, ironically) and nowhere has any study shown or scientifically suggested that meat is the problem in the diet. The problem has always been stated as a processed food diet correlating with bad health. So the analogy goes that eating a diet of potato chips and MacDonalds is not healthy. However, a MacDonald's meal has a burger with 1 meat patty, 1 slice of cheese, a slither of lettuce and a couple of slices of tomato slapped between to buns of highly refined and processed flour with a side of salty deep-fried potatoes and nearly half a gallon of highly sweet Coca-cola and the problem in all of this is the meat patty and to a lesser extent, the slice of cheese? You don't even have to be a highly methodical intellectual person to debunk the nonsense put forward, much of the information can be taken away by mere cursory observations of the world around us.
The problem foods the actual scientists and studies keep repeating over and over again are junk foods and processed foods. Potato chips, sugar-sweetened beverages, processed fast food, pastries/cookies/cakes, most fruit juices, white bread, deep fried foods (in vegetable oil ironically), margarine etc. Pizza is one of the worst foods for people to eat - it's a base of highly refined flour, it's drowned in salty ketchup/tomato sauce, it's got a fair bit of cheese and it's topped with some meat, it's got a sprinkling of vegetables which is good... Oh yeah and a decent serving of vegetable oil. So anyone would guess that if you made pizza vegan, it would be healthy, right? Well, no, if all you do is switch out the cheese for vegan cheese and put more vegetables on it/ a bit of tofu if you please, it's still an oily mess, it's still a refined grain dough. With no other changes besides the omission of animal products, in order to make it vegan, pizza is no healthier for anyone than non-vegan pizza. Pizza is as healthy or as unhealthy as the cook wants to make it and usally that comes down to the base and the added oil.
When it's a piece of info which agrees with what many vegans believe, or it's the opinion of a vegan professional or vegan supporting professional vegans cry for joy and states that it's mere obvious facts and science. When it's an idea or opinion that runs counter to vegan doctrine, many vegans dismiss it off immediately and accuse the person or source of being 'paid off.' As the lady states in this video at roughly 15 minutes, "let's follow the money." To circle back, I find it very ironic that when professionals and people state these very obvious and verifiable facts, such as the one's I've stated above, that vegans accuse such people of being paid off and bribed to produce false studies and info. Where's my paycheck from corporate meat and big dairy for perpetuating the lie? However, when people, when 'professionals' state that veganism is THE ONLY healthy diet, that it protects against several chronic diseases such as cancer, diabetes and CVD [heart disease] and even has the ability to reverse and cure these diseases, I have some difficulty believing such absolutist and stern statements aren't supported by under the table money. When people come onto air and state that meat/dairy/eggs 'cause' (not correlate with) a certain set of diseases and their supportive studies, if cited, don't actually state these ideas at all, then I find it hard to believe vegans are following the money and science and these 'on air' vegans aren't being paid to read a script, rather than being asked a question and giving their best-educated answer.
Not that I think it matters, the truth will be the truth whether no one believes it or whether everyone believes it, I just think it's laughable to hear accusations of money corruption coming from groups of people who support such absurd statements. But all in all, to wrap it up, I'm wasting my time writing anything because as any logical person knows, you can't convince a propagandist of anything, which means it doesn't matter what evidence is placed in front of vegans, they'll be vegans regardless and they'll keep spreading their propaganda because that's what cults do.
How do I know it's a cult? How do I know it's all propaganda? As any logical person knows, any scientifically literate media presents evidence to support their hypothesis, then they present evidence that counters their hypothesis as the oppositions critical analysis and they rebut to these counter hypothesis to explain why their hypothesis is accurate and true. To date, no a single vegan film, 'documentary' or piece of media (as far as I have seen and been exposed to) has followed this scientific integrity of presenting counter evidence and counter ideas to further strengthen their arguments. It's as though vegans want an absolute suppression of all counter ideas for fear of challenging science disrupting their propaganda.
In fact, there isn't really much scientifically backed logic in any vegan film, most of them seem to be, as is this one, a montage of opinion. Clip after clip of 'this is the way, you are wrong, I am right.' It is as though you think if you show a montage of 100 people with a tagline of .MD attached all saying roughly the same idea in a sentence, that this then becomes truth. It's as though vegans genuinely believe appeals to authority and ad baculum to be legitimate arguments for their ideas.
Fun side note, I often hear (as in near constantly) that there is some kind of meat and dairy giant conspiracy in which vegans accuse meat and dairy giants of forcing their products on us for some conspiracy laced reason. I honestly don't get the 'logic' in this paranoia and I never have, vegans are crazy and I've always firmly stated that corporations are out to make money and they couldn't give a single fuck about you. There's no conspiracy to poison you, or give you cancer with beef, or render you infertile with non-existent hormones in chicken breast, they're purely out to make money. I've stated from the absolute get-go (for about 5 years now) that big corporations will follow the money wherever the fuck it goes, they couldn't give a fuck about you, or your health, or the environment, they just want a dollar. I've stated from day 1 that if demand switched from animal products they would overnight release all animal products and retool factories for the new demand to retain profit. All the arguments of 'animal agriculture destroying the planet' have always been arguments of money driven corporations not giving a fuck about the planet in their quest for profit. I've always stated that animals and animal agriculture aren't intrinsically responsible for anything and if humans demand were high enough, companies would gladly level the Amazon and every other forrest overnight to grow soy, beans and rice for people... In fact, they already do exactly that, to the extent they require in order to meet human demand. Ironically, if you jump to 20 minutes the video states exactly this, big dairy and meat corporations re-tooling to cater for demand of plant based products. Am I, is everyone supposed to believe that because the products are plant based that they'll magically be better for the planet and the whole world will be happy? Am I supposed to believe that the same companies vegans accuse of levelling rainforrests for animal products would cut down an entire rainforrest in a heartbeat for plant products? Mmmmmhhhh, I smell a deep amount of inconsistency.
eeeaten that’s your whole problem with that entire comment? Article after article of vegan propaganda stating that each and every animal product is giving us cancer or heart disease or high cholesterol or kidney failure or diabetes and virtually ALL of them have zero basis in credible studies yet your reply to everything I said was ´well actually if you eat excessive amounts of processed meat your whole life the you’ll slightly increase your risk of a certain type of cancer which is only 10% of cancers’?
You can go have a look over that part of my reply where I say swathes of vegans who are scientifically illiterate and don’t actually read academia see an anti-meat headline they like and run with it as a trump card saying ‘meat gives you cancer’ to every and all ideas contrary to their doctrine.
99% of my original comment was ‘what we already know for certain is that processed foods, grains and sugar are some of the worst foods for us’ but 1% of my comment was ‘virtually all things vegans say against meat/eggs/dairy are not supported by facts or credible sources’ and your takeaway was ‘well you lied because you forgot to clarify that massively exceeding processed meat consumption guidelines it will increase your chances of contracting a specific type of cancer which is only 10% of all cancers’?
Who’s to say that if I remember to clarify this non-point (assuming you follow a healthy diet and lifestyle) that this silly bitch christelle wouldn’t have just said ‘but meat gives you cancer’ anyway?
Okay, since vegans are scientifically and literarily illiterate Ill clarify for everyone so there no confusion about whether or not a hotdog is going to give them brain cancer.
If you have a healthy diet and lifestyle and you’re not obese, there are no rational concerns that you’re going to wake up one day with cancer due to your diet just because you ate some meat eggs and dairy roughly following nutritional guidelines.
No, I will not apologise for you being offended on the internet, that’s not my problem I couldn’t care less for people being offended on the behalf of others and if I have upset someone on YouTube by being harsh and truthful, it doesn’t bother le one bit.
Thanks for your input, whether you agree or disagree with what I’ve said or whether or not you think I’ve been rude, abusive or harsh over the internet.
what you said was "There are exactly zero studies which supposedly purport the damage of meat and animal foods in one's diet." so processed meat is a notable exception and i think your name-calling and abuse is unwarranted. even though i otherwise agree with you i think you should apologise for that.
essentially eating processed meat can be harmful, meat cooked at high temperatures (eg bbq) can be harmful, but including a moderate amount of meat/fish/eggs/dairy in your diet is good for you. being a vegan purely for health is not a sensible choice.
Processed meat has shown to be a carcinogen in the same way the sun and all other group 1A carcinogens are, there is sufficient evidence to support the claim that there is a causational carcinogenic risk - it does not state the severity of the risk.
The WHO outlines this perfectly and addresses many of the Q&A's many vegans and worried people would have. The WHO isn't in the business of telling people how to live their lives (unlike vegans) so you won't catch them telling people to eat meat (or not to) but the consensus is that they state meat to have several health benefits and if you stick to the healthy diet and lifestyle suggestions of the WHO and other nutritional health authorities and don't drastically exceed your consumption of red meat and processed meat by factors of 2-3 for prolonged periods of decades then expect to see no increase in risk of colorectal cancers.
As stated before, this is great news for someone scientifically literate. As stated before, someone who smokes has a likelihood 20 times that of a non-smoker in developing lung cancer. As a percentage, that's 2000%. Someone who eats processed meat every day of their life (nearly) has a likelihood 1.018 times that of someone who does not eat processed meats, if I got the decimal placement correct, as a percentage that should translate to 18%.
This is virtually non-existent when contrasted with the risks of smoking, alcoholism, air pollution, vehicle exhaust and virtually everything else around us in modern society. That and colorectal cancers are roughly only 10% of all cancers.
Should I have stated that a healthy diet including meat has shown no health concerns *except for the fact that a gross excess consumption of processed meat may increase your risk of colorectal cancer? No, not really. If you're obese and you eat a lot of processed foods, you do not have a healthy lifestyle - if you're obese, no matter your diet and lifestyle, that's an indicator that you're not healthy. If you're not healthy, you're not healthy... Self-explanatory.
Fun fact, I never actually said "there's zero studies linking animal foods to poor health" as Christelle stated, use Ctrl-F or Command-F and have a look for yourself... Yet another vegan strawman argument, as usual.
Actually what I said were that the strongest correlations to poor health were with heavily processed foods and junk foods, of which most are by far plant foods. Grains, sugar, sugar-sweetened beverages, and processed junk food.
But, even if I had stated that there are zero studies linking animal products to poor health, should I have clarified that eating so much food and processed meat through your entire life that you get obese and then get cancer and die may kill you? No, it's a non-issue and the risk is unrealistic, the only reason it has so much traction is because scientifically illiterate cunts like this bitch see a headline that says something pro vegans - meat will kill you - and then they take it and run and use it as a trump card for their propaganda without reading or understanding the studies.
i agree he should have said processed meat has been shown to be a carcinogen, although to be fair that gives no indication of is carcinogenicity. that "group" also includes sunlight and alcohol. as jordan is bagging processed plant-based foods he'd probably agree you should avoid processed meats, but maybe he has a comment of his own to make.
I'm giving a tip to everyone who has watched this documentary: Please don't go vegan right away if you are used to eating animal based food. Do your research first and start slow. It's very frustrating to see people quitting after a few weeks because "it's too hard" or "I wasn't getting all my nutrients", and it's even worse to see complete idiots getting sick from eating vegan junk food and then blaming veganism for their health problems. Do your research, people!
I was a vegan from Oct. 2003 to Oct. 2017. There was no way I was ever going back. To make a long story short, I tried everything, even when health wasn't perfect, it was a test for me I figured, and eliminating suffering was most important, no matter what the health cost, but I knew deep down I would end up in a better place (not just healthier ultimately, but making a difference with respect to cruelty and suffering). In the end, I was practically dead in Oct. 2017. A little animal protein brought me back to life (long story there too). I understand how many vegans won't believe this, and that's expected. It's likely all about beliefs ultimately (what you've seen and felt). I still love you all (vegans), more than you know, for your values (and I still have them, that didn't change), but unfortunately my life experience convinced me that we need that animal protein to live (essential amino acids). Lierre Keith (who was vegan for 20 years) talks more about her experience with more research points (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNON5iNf07o). Hopefully chicken and fish is enough (I believe it is), along with fruits and veggies. I know many of you will think "I must have done something wrong...", like I've seen so much, but I was really going to die (not the first time either, along with what's happened to my body), and for nothing. People wouldn't have said: "He was a vegan, and he just died, believing it was the right way". I know you don't believe you're going to die young on a vegan diet, but I had to get to that point to believe it, and not just once. There has to be another way, to get us all to reduce gradually and change into what we're hoping for, just as vegans intended, but not today. Stay alive, so we can help each other become that way, a world without cruelty and suffering.
Do you think eating vegan is causing more plants to get harvested? It takes up to 16kg of grain to produce 1kg of meat. That is very inefficient. If you go vegan, less plants are killed for you to consume.
giving up dairy, sure... i like soy milk and rice milk. giving up beef and fish sure... i don't even like fish... but to give up eggs?... I can't. How do I find a balance with being kind to nature as well as being kind to my body without feeling deprived? bottomline is veganism is not for me... much less for everyone
Xorn Elas you didn't say what the difference is as far as gmo/organic is concerned.
"I don't recommend anyone to eat soy" - why not? you haven't said. soy is fine as long as you don't eat a crapload of it.
eeeaten "What's difference"? Do you really asking that question. Because 90% of soy and maybe even more is GMO. IT'S not just about vegetarianism and veganism, it is also about healthy food. You could be vegan and eat garbage food and still look old, be sick, depressed etc. People in Japan eat lot of soy, they like soy and say that soy is one of the reason why they are so healthy. In USA and Europe soy is GMO. THEY did a lot of independent studies to prove it. I am vegetarian, I don't eat soy and I don't recommend anyone to eat soy, especially not in Europe and USA...men should be careful with soy. Vegetarianism and veganism become trend and big business. People should eat local food. It's cheaper and healthier. Growing your own food it's the best solution.
You are absolutely correct sir, killing animals for pleasure is a crime and therefore should not be accepted. But animals should be killed painlessly and only for correct usage, this attributes to centuries of human success doing what humans did. Animals are different for that reason. Also, plants feel pain too, they scream by releasing a chemical that you smell after mowing the lawn or cutting down a tree. So saying that eating animals is ethical is foolish, but understandable, because no matter what we eat we somehow inflict some sort of pain on some life form.
P.S: Thank you, yesterday was difficult and my M4 jammed so I was just using my M9.
No problem, I it's just a comments section, not a chat.
First off, it's important to not that I don't claim to understand what god thinks or intents, the lord works in mysterious ways and as a mere human I will never be capable of fully grasping this omniscient being.
The way I understand the Dominium terrae is to benefit from animals and the rest of creation by enjoying and protecting it. You have probably had pets in your life and know the feeling of bonding with an animal. It's a feeling of unconditional love and through this love we can benefit from them. That's at least the way I see it. You see, I'm an animal lover, I spend time with animals, communicate with them and pet them. This gives me more joy than eating them ever has, but that's just a personal experience.
Nontheless, it is shown that animals are rather intelligent (not as much as us of course) and are capable of feeling emotions. (To know a pig does not want to die just takes looking into their eyes when they are about to be slaughtered. Or hearing their screams.) I doubt - and again I don't know, I can just assume - that god would have given animals a consciousness and ability to suffer, if he wanted them to be treated they way we are currently treating them. And we don't do it to survive, we don't need to eat meat. Nor do we do it to be sustainable. It has been shown that animal agriculture is the leading driver of global warming, deforestation and species extinction. Meaning, our mass consumption is damaging this world and thereby gods creation, that we were supposed to look out for.
We rule over them, but that does not mean that we need to be like rutheless dictators, killing them for our pleasure. We can act like king David and be good and kind rulers. Defenders, not victimizers.
What are your thoughts on that?
PS: Good luck in Syria. I hope, nothing happenes to you there!
Seems like I misjudged you. I as well do not have any intent of being violent or rude.
And yes, you are right about Genesis 1:29-30, of course. It clearly says that we are above the animals and god put them here for us to rule over them.
I do not know what this is called in English, but in German it's called "Herrscherauftrag", which this whole passage is about. Google says its called "Dominium terrae" in latin, I hope that helps(?). We talked in religion class about that and since I graduated in Religion, it was a pretty in depth discussion. God put us, the image of god, onto earth to rule over and look out for his creation. He states that we are to take dominion of the planet and rule over the rest of the creation, right?
We are supposed to benefit from his creation and keep an eye over it, rule it and protect his work.
Are we on the same page so far? Or would you disagree with any of that?
Monique Marquez what hormones and gmos do you think are in our milk? all milk contains a tiny amount of naturally occurring hormones, and milk from cows treated with hormones is identical to that which hasn't been. what gmos do you think are in milk? not to mention science shows gmos are in no way harmful for human consumption anyway.
i don't see how any religious text has any influence on whether foods are actually ok for human consumption or not.
what "horrible diet" are you talking about? farmers want their milk to be the best it can be, so they invest in that - they get paid for the quality (purity and level of milk solids) of their milk.
it's clear you have no clue.
+eeeaten true it is ok for humans actually. It says so in the Bible. I'm just saying they are going about production all wrong. That's my point. Just the hormones and the GMOs also are not good for us. Not to mention the horrible diet they put the cows on makes the milk not worth us drinking anyway.
"the cow produces it for her calf and that should come first" - sure, but what we're talking about is whether or not drinking milk is healthy - it is.
"I believe the nutrition in the milk is designed for cows and their mulecular structure and not ours." - as you say that's your _belief_ and is not biologically accurate. most of us find cow's milk perfectly digestible.
"I don't believe it is essential for us" - i'm not suggesting it's _essential_ just that it's perfectly healthy to drink it.
" if this is what happens in order for you to get I'm mean c'mon." - i don't understand this sentence.
"Freakin drink something else don't be ignorant..." - pretty sure i'm not being ignorant, i understand the reasons why we drink milk and the moral objections to it. i just want to clarify the biological fact that unless you're allergic to cow's milk or can't digest some of the sugars in it (eg lactose) then it's perfectly healthy to drink.
+eeeaten it's for humans but the cow produces it for her calf and that should come first. I believe the nutrition in the milk is designed for calf's and their mulecular structure and for them first! Not us first. Honestly I don't know if it's ok from time to time to consume but I believe the Bible and it says it's ok. I don't believe it is essential for us so there for drink something else until they fix this system or get organic grass fed ,no GMOs,no antibiotic milk. Plus if this is what happens in order for you to get it, I mean c'mon. Freakin drink something else don't be ignorant...
why do you think milk is not healthy and not for humans? i think it's sad that calves are taken from their mothers at birth, and that many male calves are slaughtered - these are legitimate objections to the dairy industry. but milk is objectively nutritious and healthy for most of us to drink.
Our land is dying, and it’s being brutally, callously, cruelly murdered by agriculture. (Not to mention the backbreaking, underpaid, dangerous working conditions of those at the bottom of the employment chain who have to pick crops that can’t be combine-harvested).
Given the choice between knowing that the animals that die for my food can do so in a sustainable way and knowing of the large-scale massacre of animals that senselessly die, and aren’t even eaten, for the sake of agriculture – I know which I find to be a better outcome. Which deaths are worse?
I am anti-vegan and this is why.
i'm not really sure why you're anti-vegan from these statements. you think a vegan diet causes people to work hard? what is the alternative? and when they're not working hard there are bugs and bunnies killed by combine harvesters? is that your opposition?
also, you mention sustainability - do you realise that growing livestock to eat uses about ten times as much water, land and energy than growing the same amount of calories in plants to feed humans? i think you're justifying your preference to eat meat by accepting misinformation about food production.
As a PSW/ Education Assistant I see alot of problems out there diseases and respiatory weight issues diabetes in especially young persons.
I decided to change my eating habits and Thank God I did.
I became a vegetarian I do eat some cheese , egg whites , organic hen eggs.
I do eat Salmon n tuna once a month
I stay clear away from chicken pork cattle turkey meats. . I do have a cheat day. I lost 25 lbs in 3 months and I play tennis 1-2 per week I feel good and energized everyday.
I am a 55 year old triathlete and turned vegan 10 days ago for both health and ethical reasons - I already see the difference whilst I train - I have less of a heavy belly feeling which slowed me down and the tendon soreness I used to have after training has gone..
I should thank my daughter who has softly convinced me and Rich Roll who who is just a cool and inspiring guy with a profound view of the world and the changes needed to sustain humankind - would love to train with him one day...
I have been a meat eater for 30 years .. A documentary changed my life and I went Vegan overnight ..it’s been two years now.. I turned vegan for animals.. But the health benefits can't be explained in few words.. I went from size 12 to size 4 still losing., I feel light and no bloating .. more than everything am so peaceful .. Am so happy .. Turning Vegan was the best decision I ever made in my life 🌱❤️💪🏼 Iam gonna be Vegan for life
I wonder how Vegans can talk about animal exploitation but not plant exploitation. Do you think a plant wants t o be kept in a environment with it own species, a monoculture. 100,000 tomato plants in close proximity to each other is different to 100,000 chickens, how. Environmentalist do not like golf courses due to the monoculture that is created.
Have you ever noticed when you break a plant leaf a fluid is released. It does not need to red to be blood.
Be careful vegans. You are not helping anything. All you are doing is developing new economic markets and making other people rich. Just more consumption. Look at how Google went from "Do no evil" and is now an organisation that is interested in power and control instead of being a public service.
If you really want to save the world and feel better than create a new economy that does not really on growth and bigger numbers. You are trained consumers and baby making machines. We need never to be happy.
It's heart-warming to now see and feel that the trend is shifting into mainstream; I'm just very grateful to those people who shared with me this and other videos so that I could be aware and make my own conscious decision. "Thank You". If you are reading this may be think about the precious gift of 'health' that you could show by sharing this with others you care and love
I was fruitarian for about 2 years and it was the best diet ever. However, now i have been vegetarian for 3 years total of 5 years without meat. I still feel good even though the best diet is fruit based diet eventually I will be back to it.
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