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3 Things That Mass Shootings Tell us About American Society

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Mass shootings are becoming more and more common. Many of us are angry while others of us are disillusioned. And of course there are endless proposed causes and solutions that our politicians and news anchors have been discussing. But how many of them have stopped to think what these shootings tell us about our society in the first place? What do you think they tell us about our society? Let us know in the comment section below. -- Subscribe To Thought Monkey: https://www.youtube.com/thoughtmonkey Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thought.monkey.community/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julesy.bulsy/ Check Out Everytown: https://everytown.org/ -- Sources: Most mass shootings are not committed by the mentally ill: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/us/politics/fact-check-parkland-gun-violence-mental-illness.html How easy it is to get an AR-15 in Florida: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/ar15-mass-shootings-guns.html 30% of mass shootings are inspired by the media: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0117259
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Clymax01 (12 дней назад)
They blame hip hop and rock music
Erin Cooper (13 дней назад)
this guy just called mass shooter sane people...
Bundle of Perceptions (16 дней назад)
The only solution is to solve the wealth inequality problem, but to do that, you need to convince the men who stole the wealth in the first place to give some of it back, and I can't think of a reason why they would want to do that, given how much effort they went through to steal it in the first place.
No Oneman (1 месяц назад)
Nice slight of hand there you Sly dog. Presenting things as if they're facts. Also only 20% have mental issues the rest are insane? I dunno. If you commit as heinous an act as a mass shooting, there is probably something wrong with you.
danilo ventura (1 месяц назад)
90% of all "mass" shooting are committed with handguns according to the FBI, not "assault" rifles. You run the risk of losing credibility when presenting fictitious points to bolster an argument.
Laura Darst (1 месяц назад)
This very abused topic by the Left will never be solved as long as the political Left see the topic as a weapon. They arm their very volatile supporters by telling them to kick those who vote differently, run people out of restaurants or throw them out because they have a different opinion. These mass shooters have a history of voting Democrat.
Richard Hiller (2 месяца назад)
Now tell us that two thirds of all gun deaths are suicide. You will probably leave that out. By the way, most mass shootings are not done with AR 15. More propaganda bullshit
Fploop (2 месяца назад)
Upping security and medal detectors.
Troy Baker (3 месяца назад)
Well, most americans are frustrated and unhappy with their society, because they see people like the Kardashians and wonder how tf did we get here. Most choose to ignore it, but some really love to sit and rethink that same question over and over.
Max XM (4 месяца назад)
Okay dude ar15s are not the most common mass shooting weapon. Handguns are. Handguns are the leading weapon in gun violence in the US by far.
Random Modnar (5 месяцев назад)
Damn we live in a society
00100000 (5 месяцев назад)
GreaterGood510 (5 месяцев назад)
Sandy Hook was a hoax
MsTralala12 (6 месяцев назад)
Guns are easy to blame. What's hard to say is we're failing one another in our society. The powers that be don't care though, so here's to hoping we as a nation wake up to enact some real change.
whatever ._. (7 месяцев назад)
I'm sorry but you are not sane AT ALL if you succumb to mass murdering people.
Jackie lisa (7 месяцев назад)
Cars kill thousands of people in a day. No one talks about changing laws or roads. Sure "safer" cars are popular but thats about money and advertising too. There are some great examples of everyday killers that are much more deadly than guns but would never be looked at. That bothers me. Makes me feel like there has to be a underlying agenda for things to change.
Jason Clark (7 месяцев назад)
You kinda fell pray to your own media bias. AR-15's are not the main cause of mass shootings. pistols and shotguns are the main thing used. So... unsubscribe.
N BOR (7 месяцев назад)
Would you like to explain the philosophy of spontanious order? It can be applied to the subject of guns... In my view, shooters their reasons might be philosophical, since they believe that whoever they shoot has no value or is a burden to them. Moral relativism and nihilism also could play part of this problem as the believing in no morals as well as believing of that nothing has a value plays also an important role.
Goofy Gabs (7 месяцев назад)
This channel is way better than pseudo information Buzzfeed to PragerU
your boy remme (7 месяцев назад)
you do realise there's no agreed definition of a mass shooting
Spaicer Soda (7 месяцев назад)
Talk about syria, that could be interesting...
Thought Monkey (7 месяцев назад)
I'll add it to my list of topics :)
SirMikeys (8 месяцев назад)
It's likely caused by a variety of factors, but I believe the two most prominent issues are: 1: There is a very dark set of values that are spreading across America and possibly other countries. I'm not sure what's causing it, but it is definitely reflected in the media that we consume. The theme of "taking matters into your own hands" is a dangerous mentality. American culture seems to socially accept that type of behavior, as evidenced by the themes of movies such as "Death Wish". So yes, social change definitely needs to happen. 2: Having easy access to Something definitely increases the likelihood that a person will decide to use that Something. This applies to many human behaviors, not just the propensity to use a gun. For example, when youre struggling to resist temptations, the best thing you can do is reduce the accessibility you have to that temptation. Alternatively, when you want to start a new habit such as eating healthy, you'll want to make sure you have easy access to healthy food. So yes, the unusually high accessibility of guns in America is definitely contributing to these mass shootings. Understand that both sides of the arguments here have good points and that we need to work together to solve this difficult but critical issue.
Snowfall (8 месяцев назад)
Some facts to consider: The U.S. has the most guns then any other country; but is 12th for firearm related deaths (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country) A study showed 1,029,615 DGU (Defensive Gun Usage) cases, this means 1,029,615 people had defended themselves using a gun, while only 11,208 deaths by gun violence in 2012. (https://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp, https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2018/03/20/any-study-of-gun-violence-should-include-how-guns-save-lives/2/#2f76c8e462d9) I would say the pros of guns outweigh the cons by a large margine, this is not to say better background checks should not be out of the picture, but anyone advocating for banning weapons or a certain type of weapon should consider how many lives are saved, and how many Americans are willing to step up and protect our rights, before they do.
Rafaela Mora (8 месяцев назад)
Law enforcement needs to do their jobs. FBI needs to do their jobs. 1 lock the doors at schools. 2 arm teachers. 3 teach students Krav Maga.4 make campus police stay in the school. School shooting are only happening in white schools. Watch that fact.
Rafaela Mora (8 месяцев назад)
Most mass shooting are caused by a fatherless male.
Rafaela Mora (8 месяцев назад)
This video is an absolute propagandize bull shit. Out of the past 96 shooting AR15 were only used in 6. So 90 mass shooting did not use AR15. Stop spreading lies.
Rafaela Mora (8 месяцев назад)
Why hasn't anyone brought up Obama's law that stop law enforcement from stopping the shooting. The law: once law enforcement meets their quota for the month. Law enforcement shouldn't make anymore arrests. There was a law on the books that would have stop Nicholas from killing 17. Law enforcement could have should have confiscate the guns of an individual who is a threat to themselves or others. The they could have should have put him in a psyc ward for treatment. If law enforcement won't up hold laws already on the books. Why do the useless idiots think we need more laws.
Turkey tastes good (8 месяцев назад)
americans dont exist cus we killed pretty much all of the indianas
corgidog (8 месяцев назад)
Why did the amount of school shootings spike in 2000?
Baresh (8 месяцев назад)
I just discovered you and I like your videos so far I'd like it if you could add your sources to your statistics though. Not only could I believe you more but at least you're not giving us "fake news". Keep it up!
schizoidboy (8 месяцев назад)
I think the problem is a social one. We've always had guns in this country and for a time fully automatic weapons were easily available but this was long before mass shootings became common. One thing that was made clear that I agree with is how the media portrays mass shootings and how they lead into other shootings. The fact that the last shooter claimed he wanted to be a "professional school shooter" shows he took inspiration from other school shootings, the worse they are the better remembered they'll be. They are genuinely miserable people who want to spread their misery and they see the reactions everyone gives to these shooting so they are encouraged to commit these shootings. They also target places where they will not be stopped or no one will be able to stop. You certainly never see mass shooters where someone is going to shoot back at them. The problem is the trouble with these individuals is they start early in their development. No one becomes violent overnight, it is a gradual process that gets progressively worse over time. The real trick is to stop these things before they get into the progression stages, not at the moment when they're looking for guns - it gets to the latter point nothing can be done.
SirMikeys (8 месяцев назад)
schizoidboy Truth is, making behavioral repairs on society is an extremely difficult task. Yes, we need to learn how to prevent these people from developing these dangerous mindsets, but politicians are essentially useless in that job. It's a job for the psychologist and the idols among society. They need to find out what's going wrong and then set behavioral examples. Kids tend to be inspired by the behaviors and oppinions of the people they idolize, but you cant control the behaviors and oppinions of society's idols, so it's an extremely difficult problem. I'd say the best thing we can do is become better parents and try to become the kid's idol, and then set an example. But only after we find out why these kids are so misserable in the first place. But then you have the problem of getting people to be better parents.. which is a monumental task on its own. Idk I think we're fucked.
Johnnie Alexander (8 месяцев назад)
Tells me the CIA/CBI/NSA are orchestrating most shootings for an excuse to disarm and overthrow America.Dismantle all ABC agencies.
Kim Jon Un Official VEVO (8 месяцев назад)
Don't you know.. It's clearly just the VIDEO GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AERODYNAMIK11 (8 месяцев назад)
Where did you get the 22 percent statistic from?
Patrik Banek (9 месяцев назад)
Jermanos Petalos (9 месяцев назад)
If they are white, they call it mental illness. If they are none-white, they calll them terrorist, thugs, or some other name. In a nutshell, your own racial bias is killing you.
HomelessOnline (9 месяцев назад)
"Everytown" is a gun control group, and they're set on restricting civil rights. If restricting civil rights is a valid way of saving lives, why not simply enslave us all?
SirMikeys (8 месяцев назад)
HomelessOnline Perhaps the weak and usless minds of the masses are better off enslaved. They're obviously unfit to manage and maintain order amongst themselves. Would you attempt to give a gun to those foolish criminals in prison? The ignorant and violent nature of American society means everyone is undeserving of such liberty. So enslave them, but let them be happy. Give them all the food, facebook, and netflix these slaves want. That's all they want and deserve. Btw, I dont actually believe what I just wrote because it's obviously dictator talk, but it is something to think about. There is a certain amount of freedom that society needs. Can't have too much freedom, otherwise we'd be living in the Purge. So where should we draw the line?
David Hudspeth (9 месяцев назад)
j s (9 месяцев назад)
I don't think we should arm every teacher I just think teachers should have the option to carry
HomelessOnline (9 месяцев назад)
I don't think anybody actually makes the argument that every teacher should be armed. The left uses it as a straw man argument.
Les Lieb (9 месяцев назад)
4th. point is many of these shootings are corrupt government orchestrated, or entirely made up.
klabloban (9 месяцев назад)
America has never been able to own up to any problems they have created. We have lived in fear since the beginning. With mass shooting this is no different. In the 80s and 90s America blamed the entertainment industry with rap and action movies making kids aggressive towards other people, which turned out to be false. In the early 2000s it was turned to video games being the cause, which turned out to be false as well. Now it’s the NRA, which is kind of in the right ball park but totally misses the big picture. Yes they are corrupt and have made it easy for people in conservative states to buy guns by paying politicians to make such laws. But we are miss completely, we have no trust anymore. We can’t trust our government because of all the corrupt politicians on Botha sides. A trust-less government creates a domino affect that makes people even start to trust no one. We are shunning the people with no money and not paying attention to the bad parents that give these kids horrible environments of living. Almost all the shooters were bullied, lived in complete poverty, and had a shitty living environment. We need to start help everyone! I’m not saying going Soviet Union, you get what you work for, but more inclusive laws that make it easier for lower income families to feel included in normal day life and accepted by the community as a whole. P.S. this is just one mans opinion, I could be wrong on every level. I’m just trying to make sense of the way society is in today’s world. P.S.S. The constitution is a thing so ya; they all are law of the land.
HomelessOnline (9 месяцев назад)
The NRA doesn't pay politicians to make laws. The NRA is a PAC and simply lobbies for legislation--or the lack thereof. I can't afford to go to Washington and protest every time a national anti-Second Amendment bill comes up, so I pay the NRA to do it for me. It's free speech in support of the Second Amendment.
bamischijfje123 (9 месяцев назад)
It's so difficult to fix this problem, but the underlying problem definately is malevolence, and if everybody were to treat their fellow human being well, these things won't happen. Making weapon laws a little more strict might also work
I.O.U. (9 месяцев назад)
Violent Entertainment produces, Violence, in some people
Rand Paul (4 месяца назад)
I.O.U. And you know that this violence is the cause of the mass shooters? Funny how no doctor who knows the human body has said that before
heaven roots (9 месяцев назад)
I know im going to get heat from this as much as I always wanted to dismantal and practice with every gun its not on tbe top of my bucket list. As americans we have the right to bear arms and protect our families etc. But we dont need Ar-15 and high powered guns excluding shotguns.
Larry Tinsley (4 месяца назад)
heaven roots it's not for home defense retard it for a tyrannical govt
HomelessOnline (9 месяцев назад)
You don't "need" beef, chicken mcnuggets, a BMW, your own house, a high-paying job, both kidneys, or free speech. That's why it's called the Bill of RIGHTS, not Bill of NEEDS. Furthermore, all guns are "high-powered." If you don't like AR-15's, then don't get one!
Matt R (9 месяцев назад)
heaven roots I totally agree with you. As an Aussie I may not grasp the American patriotism and amendments but I strongly believe that there is no reason for anyone to ever own a military grade weapon for “home defence”. If a pistol can not handle the situation, what is a high-powered rifle going to do (other than make the situation worse)? I’ve heard some say that it’s to fight back against an oppressive government but how can you fight back against drones and tanks? I don’t think America will ever be gun free even if all guns are banned out right but you can at least be practical about what people can buy
Lukdnuke FTW (9 месяцев назад)
Ummmmmmm. No most shooting are done by hand guns and, yeah we have a lot of shooting when you realize the fact that we have 300 mil people vs 8-10 in the nordics
Mr. Robot (4 месяца назад)
Thought Monkey that's not true at all.
Lukdnuke FTW (9 месяцев назад)
Thought Monkey yeah but the reason why I wrote it is because gun ownership has increased while gun violence has taken a nose dive. Also other country’s that have given up there gun do sometimes have lower gun crime, but then all other violent crime increases
Thought Monkey (9 месяцев назад)
You're right. Most shootings are with handguns, but most mass shootings have been done using ar-15s.
Ramír Delgado actor (9 месяцев назад)
People need to understand peace. When they understand that riddle, they'll understand peace.
Miss Amazon (9 месяцев назад)
Preach!! We gotta stop the hate! We need to remember that our actions today determine how safely our great-great grandchildren will live!!
Abigail Judith (9 месяцев назад)
Miss Amazon But how are we going to do that? I don’t think we should just leave it up to the politicians at this point..I live in West Virginia and right now all of the important politicians that are important to me have just been screwing us over...over and over again
root·in'-toot·in' (9 месяцев назад)
The uprise of mass shootings right around the time when obama got elected.. Nice illuminati hand gestures.
Nenad Cotic (9 месяцев назад)
Thx for making good video. Nice explanation
Alexandre César (9 месяцев назад)
(Irrelevant to the topic discussion comment) Damn I read the title of the video, saw "Monkey" written on the channel's name, clicked it, kept looking at you and thinking "who the hell is this guy?". I thought I was at the Mumkey Jones channel, not yours. lol a video made by him on this same subject would be awesome tho. But hey, great video!
Ain't no Slice (9 месяцев назад)
Just ban kids from schools. Not that hard
HueyNapalm (9 месяцев назад)
I have nothing to add to the debate, just wanted to say this was pretty balanced but the jumpcuts were painful. Smoother editing or fuller takes would be nice. 👍
Komrade BigTex (9 месяцев назад)
Certify certain teachers and train them with psyc evaluations every 6 months or more frequently even,as well as starting school drills that don’t make you sit in one place and wait to be shot but help kill or maime the shooter
tristin smith (9 месяцев назад)
I'm from South Africa and this really helped me understand what's going on. Thank you for your good work. Please do keep it up 😁
Northern Beattie (9 месяцев назад)
Is insanity a mental illness?
Abigail Judith (9 месяцев назад)
The Gentlemen Network (9 месяцев назад)
I think the best way we can solve the problem of mass shootings is by getting better background checks. It's easier for an individual to get gun in America then to get a driver's license. And I don't believe that it should be the case.
HomelessOnline (9 месяцев назад)
Maybe that's because a driver's license isn't a civil right, but instead it's a privilege. How would you like your right to post on the internet be reclassified as a privilege?
Ezra (9 месяцев назад)
The Gentlemen Network Not necessarily because these background checks are Federal ones that are extremely stringent. Plus firearms, ammunition, and maintenance are expensive and require extensive training to use properly.
Lee Xiong (9 месяцев назад)
Economic equality is the best first step. It is not the solution, but because it is so pervasive in everyone's lives, getting a handle on it will cascade the bandaging effect downward to every person. The real solution, as you already said, is to cure the sickness. Society, and people in general are sick. Depression, suicide, crime and so many other bad acts are a direct result of our inability to foster and support the human condition. Learn what the human condition is. Some good places to start are loving families and communities, a place to contribute and a sense of purpose.
Richard Hiller (2 месяца назад)
It seems the more we Foster the people the higher the rate of violence. Hand holding doesn't make you stronger it makes you weaker.
whatever ._. (7 месяцев назад)
Lee Xiong Well put. Can't say I agree too much with what you said because im not exactly sure what you are suggesting by economic equality, but regardless, society is pretty sick. We have really polarized groups that can't seem to solve anything and resentment between classes. The thing is also that you see that people shame loving and conventional families nowadays.
James Brooks (9 месяцев назад)
prohibition never works, period we know this. more laws will not stop an extremely evil person from going to kill random people. It is clearly a societal problem. It is the only thing that has changed over the decades. Guns have been around even before modern schools.
Rafaela Mora (8 месяцев назад)
Eternal Carnage. Oh you don't know a damn thing if you think people don't need permits to hunt or fish. We have back ground checks. Nicholas Cruz's cousin said he inherited the guns. He didn't have money.
Rafaela Mora (8 месяцев назад)
Eternal Carnage. Nicholas Cruz's cousin said he inherited the guns. Main stream media said he bought a $450 gun. Really. He didn't have a job?
Rafaela Mora (8 месяцев назад)
Venguin. You don't understand what happened. The sheriffs department was called 36 time to Nicholas house. They could have taken his guns and put him in a psyc ward and got him treatment. They didn't. You live in the UK stay there. We Americans will keep our guns. We Americans will keep our rights. We don't need you.
Rafaela Mora (8 месяцев назад)
Venguin. So why do we keep hearing about rape gangs. That law abiding people can't defend themselves from. Either your an ugly woman or your a rich woman or your a liar.
Rafaela Mora (8 месяцев назад)
Venguin. No the UK has muslim rape gangs. Muslims run down joggers in vans! So do we legalize vans when that happens here in America??How about a compromise. Law enforcement goes and picks a kid threaten to do a mass shooting. Problem solved.
Rhi (9 месяцев назад)
Literally just went and searched "what defines a mass shooting" and it says four or more people, not three like in the video. Also, its important to remember that other countries measure mass shootings in different amounts of victims.
Rhi (9 месяцев назад)
I just read my original comment back, I didn't mean for it to come off as rude since it kind of seems that way. But yeah, the federal government states four. You should check out Louder with Crowder's new "Change My Mind" video, its filled with a lot of stats and facts on this topic.
Thought Monkey (9 месяцев назад)
There are different definitions by different organizations. Some say three, some say four, some say five. I should have mentioned this in the video. Thanks for fact checking.
Ezra (9 месяцев назад)
Rhi The MSM likes to define it as 6+ to skew statistical data in their favor. But you're right the standard is usually 4+.
Laine Riley (9 месяцев назад)
I think they should make it so it’s harder to get a gun. Other countries have done it just fine and guns aren’t useful for anything but killing things which just feels wrong.
Komrade BigTex (9 месяцев назад)
Laine Riley other countries are not the us,we have a different culture of being suspicious of the government,and not wanting to capitulate to heavy handed authority
Thought Monkey (9 месяцев назад)
Agree. There will always be people willing to sell guns to bad people despite laws that deter against it. It might help a bit, but it is just a surface level solution.
Ezra (9 месяцев назад)
Laine Riley The whole purpose of a firearm is to kill someone. Now some people will use this power to commit evil towards other human beings and others will use it to defend themselves from such evil. I don't know about you but I certainly don't want to make it harder for the good person to defend themselves from the bad person.
Lee Xiong (9 месяцев назад)
Attempting to ban or reduce gun availability is not the solution to the root of the problem, it is instead a bandage to it. The first step to making way to the true root of the solution is to ask why such an individual would want a gun.
Mist Brewer (9 месяцев назад)
When did you start showing your face?
Mist Brewer (9 месяцев назад)
Thought Monkey Proud of you. It takes a lot of courage to put your face behind your opinions and facts on the internet.
Thought Monkey (9 месяцев назад)
Like three videos back.
twn5858 (9 месяцев назад)
A lot of these are false flags done by the government/CIA.
Venguin (9 месяцев назад)
:D:D:D:D:D Been watching a lot of Infowars, have we?
CousinBasílio (9 месяцев назад)
Grow up
24/7 Vibe (9 месяцев назад)
Aye! Another banger!🔥🔥🔥🔥
Abigail Judith (9 месяцев назад)
The beginning is always in school, I’ve been working on a personal project at my middle school where I sent out a survey to see what students think about school. There were many, many negative responses when it came to the environment at school. Kids hate it. And the world around us isn’t making us feel any better. There’s also a big problem when it comes to mental health and teens. We always know when something is wrong. Doesn’t mean we are going to tell anyone. But one last thing, we are missing something. None of the answers you provided would work that well, maybe a small improvement but they won’t do much. There is something we are over looking I can feel it in my gut...we need to keep brainstorming instead of just looking at the ideas politicians are putting out....
Patrik Banek (9 месяцев назад)
Well said https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLSv17iE_4Q
Thought Monkey (9 месяцев назад)
I think you're right. We fix our education system, we fix a lot of problems. Unfortunately this takes a long time.
Ken Able (9 месяцев назад)
The country is FINISHED...and thinking people know this.
Ken Able (9 месяцев назад)
HomelessOnline The Founding Father’s were Progressive Humanist Revolutionaries operating under Enlightenment principles...the Conservatives were the ones who didn’t want a Revolution...as always, they are Status Quo...I cant help you if you don’t know this.
HomelessOnline (9 месяцев назад)
Ken, I don't know "RIGHTESTS," but I assume you mean conservatives, but probably not libertarians. I'm sure you know it was wild freedom-loving tea-partier types that created the USA. It was the minority that decided to rebel against the British, not the majority. The majority were satisfied with the subjugation they were getting from the king of England. If you don't see that the left is destroying this country by balkanization, open borders, encouraging the destruction of the family, crony capitalism, and encouraging every kind of deviancy imaginable, I can't help you. Notice I didn't break it down to democrats and republicans. Democrats are, for the most part, leftists and the party of death. Republicans are, for the most part, the party of stupid and cowardice. I believe in personal liberty and rights and enshrined by the Bill of Rights. If you have a problem with the Bill of Rights, well, get in line with the other leftists.
Ken Able (9 месяцев назад)
HomelessOnline Yeah...because the RIGHTESTS have done such a good job with the country.
HomelessOnline (9 месяцев назад)
Only if we allow the leftists to continue to run amok.
Ezra (9 месяцев назад)
Ajudithh I respect that:)
Joel Hernandez (9 месяцев назад)
y won't they just sell pistols
HomelessOnline (9 месяцев назад)
Because the Bill of Rights recognizes that, as humans, we have the right to defend ourselves with any defensive tool we decide is best for the job.
El pavo (9 месяцев назад)
Rigth out of the bad we started with an incorrect data, well mid incorrect, yes the "mass shooting" is as long as it is with 3 or more victims *and* whenever a shot is fired in a gun restricted area. If you were to accidentally shoot a gun in a school parking lot even if it didnt hurt anyone or caused any harm it's listed as a mass shooting since the changes made by the obama admistration back in 2012. Another fact to take in is the distinction that every goverment has to label something as a "mass shooting", while in the US, as stated earlier, shooting to nothing in a parking lot can be and is labeled a mass shooting in my own country México a mass shooting is label under the premise that it's done with a number of victims by the hundreds being that the last real stated labeled mass shooting was the tlatelolco massacre back in the 60's but in states like Chihuahua and guerrero people daily cause shootings to civilians and criminals alike and it is not considered a mass shooting, last week a guy had a grudge with a person that lived two streets ahead of my house until this first man came by and shot 2 filled magazines on the house killing him and 3 other friends, it wasnt even covered by the media and they still had another crude killing on front page as usual, i knew because i happened to be awake whilen it happened around 4 am and a patrol was stationed on front of my house to watch the area so i could hear their radio, that's a daily occurance in my city alone and we have a very restrictive gun control law so we know for a fact that restricting guns only removes guns from those who respect the law.
whatever ._. (7 месяцев назад)
I wish I could bookmark comments or something so I could use this as a point for discussion about gun control, thank you for the insight.
Abigail Judith (9 месяцев назад)
Thought Monkey Yeah like someone else said earlier it only strengthens the black market and then people who don’t abide by the law get their hands on a lot of weapons and a lot of dough
Thought Monkey (9 месяцев назад)
I agree that tighter laws won't help much. It didn't help with alcohol in the early 1900s, and hasn't helped with other drugs since the 1960s.
Abigail Judith (9 месяцев назад)
El pavo This is something I’m going to remember, thank you. Also we have to remember as has been said my many. The news is here to keep us engaged not informed
Sigma 88 (9 месяцев назад)
It tells us that jews run America
Ken Able (9 месяцев назад)
be not You really are a Tin Hat wearing Moron.
K27R (9 месяцев назад)
We need more guns, not less. Alcohol kills 3x more people than guns. Drugs too
K27R (9 месяцев назад)
No Thanks actually 99.9% of young people who own guns don’t go killing other people. Mass shootings are usually planned by the FBI, CIA etc and even KGB back in the day (now FSB and still do). And if there are any actual lone shooters, they probably stole the weapons 50% of the time (and it’s not always their weapon of choice) were on drugs, or worshipped Satan. Not to mention drugs and alcohol kill way more people overtime than the ‘get hit by lightning’ chances of a mass shooting, which normally occur in Gun-free zones.
Matt R (9 месяцев назад)
K27R yes but alcohol doesn’t let someone kill 17 people as horribly as a gun can. It is also illegal for that 19 year old to buy alcohol (in America at least) but he can buy a high-powered gun legally and go shoot up a bunch of children and teachers in what should be a safe space. How is this not as bad as alcohol?
Oli Wetzlar (9 месяцев назад)
Learn from Australia's gun laws, We're sick of hearing about American shootings and their sloppy politicians when we don't have mass shootings down under.... go figure
Larry Tinsley (4 месяца назад)
Oli Wetzlar that's why America's the greatest nation we don't give a fuck what you got down under
HomelessOnline (9 месяцев назад)
You also don't have the right to bear arms. No thanks. Enjoy your disarmament!
Pyrofruit (9 месяцев назад)
That's been a trend since before the laws were put in place IIRC.
Ezra (9 месяцев назад)
Ajudithh Depends on what you mean on "environment". I'm not saying your wrong, I'm just curious what you mean by that because the gun problem (in the US at least) is a multivariant problem that had many factors to include.
Abigail Judith (9 месяцев назад)
Ezra It really is an environment thing isn’t it?
NjCurly66 (9 месяцев назад)
3:15 this is what i try to tell people
ten671 (9 месяцев назад)
Just a few points: I think it all starts in the home and works outwardly into the community and even schools and the groups we associate with as we carry on about our business on a daily basis.  //  Even though societal dynamics have shifted within the last 20 years or so away from the nuclear family or that parents (both singular and plural) are working in order to meet the demands of their homes, we must find a way to see what works for those homes--how their families work, how they communicate with their children/family members about the rights and wrongs in the world, what kinds of things to do in emergency situations...  //  Not everyone will be "covered" by the education we either provide now or will implement in the future.
Abigail Judith (9 месяцев назад)
Ezra I read a book called 19 Minutes you should give it a read, it is very well written and I’ve been reading a lot of your comments...it would give you something to think about
Ezra (9 месяцев назад)
ten671 Yeah we have to teach our kids not to be afraid of firearms. They have to learn to respect and properly handle the tool that might one day save their lives.
Ezra (9 месяцев назад)
The kids was reported many times to the police, they did nothing. He was reported to the FBI twice, they ignored it. There were four police officers on campus during the shooting and they did nothing. Cruz had already broken so many laws that were designed to prevent this and the law failed. So thinking that one more layer of legality will solve this problem is delusional. This is more of a community, parental and cultural problem not a legal one.
Ezra (9 месяцев назад)
the Lost Q Yep it's now up to the individual now to defend themselves. Reliance on the government is not going to work any more.
Abigail Judith (9 месяцев назад)
Ezra I don’t know about that so much... I grew up without my dad around for many, many years, he grew up with his mom and dad basically never beginning around. But I had others to surround me and love me, so did he. It doesn’t matter who the parents/Guardians are so much as it does who surrounds them and loves them, I had my grandparents and my mother (sometimes) and he had his grandmother. This kid didn’t have a CONSTANT something to make them not feel completely lost, no compass to point him in the right direction. People say no one understands them because in that moment they don’t understand themselves. But most of us have someone we can go to when we figure it out...who did he have?
Ezra (9 месяцев назад)
Ajudithh Yeah, that plus the kid is one of the many mass shooters that grew up without his biological father. I can't imagine how this kid felt like going through the situation. Kids need their parents and loved ones and this tragedy is one example of this.
Abigail Judith (9 месяцев назад)
Estryus Flemming In this case it was a teen who felt misunderstood, he had a hard life jumping from place to place and eventually getting expelled from his school, and I do think that it does have to do with mental health of students/citizen. I don’t mean they have to be crazy or depressed but having a life where you can’t talk to anyone..where the system has failed you, that’s where “all of these angry people” get their crazy ideas to hurt others. I think part of it is revenge, part of it is making others feel their pain, but then the other part is bringing attention to the fact the system has failed them and so many others.
Ezra (9 месяцев назад)
Estryus Flemming True, we essentially immortalize them everytime it happens.
Saint Nicole (9 месяцев назад)
Tackling mental health issues would be the first step to ending this madness.
TheToledoTrumpton (7 месяцев назад)
Jane - I don't think women were ever not allowed to work as individuals. I think this is where the left goes wrong, it puts the individuals before the majority. I'm not saying ignore minorities, but you don't prioritize their needs. Obviously there are also going to be women that don't like men, and gay men that don't like women, and obviously there will be women who are so brilliant we all want them to work and find a cure for cancer or whatever. I'm not suggesting that we force this social order on the population. That would be no better than what the Left is doing today. I'm just saying that our current society that seems to persuade young girls that the right thing for them to do is to enter a combative society with men, one that is entirely destructive for both men and women, and that is crazy wrong. I mean, who wants to live in a world where young women are told by respected politicians, that Hell is a place for women that don't look out for other women (and not men), and presumably (we assume) Hell is also for men that don't look after other men (and not women). And this is put on TV and proudly announced by female leaders. Is that a world you want to live in?
whatever ._. (7 месяцев назад)
TheToledoTrumpton but I have to say that I have to disagree fundamentally with what you said in your last paragraph. Women should be allowed the choice to work, because even though the gender's have their own priorities, so do individuals of that gender. Not every woman is cut out for a life where their husband is the only one who makes the money. I don't know how I can help you understand motivations for why women want to work, but i hope you can understand that not every woman shares the same priorities
whatever ._. (7 месяцев назад)
TheToledoTrumpton not a bad point you have there, however I don't think pursuing equality necessarily means that we are trying to become uniform across the genders. But then again, my views of equality are probably different from a conventional feminist. My question to you is by what standards are you talking about equality? Are you talking about the feminist brand of "equality" or are you talking about basic equality?
TheToledoTrumpton (7 месяцев назад)
Jane - I would suggest that we first have to acknowledge that we live in an unequal world and the genders have different priorities, wants and needs. Equality is nothing but a moral ideal. There is no evidence put forward that equality improves anything, and plenty of evidence that it doesn't. An army unit without a leader and everyone equal will not perform well. Enemy soldiers even try to kill officers to create this situation. The male psyche requires work, inequality and competition. This may not be true for women, I really can't say, but even equality between the genders seems a bad idea to me. Men and women have different strengths and weaknesses, why are we not maximizing gender strengths and minimizing weaknesses instead of pursuing equality? Men need to work. They are good at it. It makes them good people. I really don't understand the reason why women want to go to work, destroy men, and share the world with a large number of psychopathic killers, instead of just letting men do the work. It seems ridiculous to me.
whatever ._. (7 месяцев назад)
Yeah, but of course barely anyone would like to mention that. I honestly agree with you, the issue is of how we would handle it because mental health is a big issue to tackle.
Kyle Jackson (9 месяцев назад)
It's a shame But it's getting desensitized and becoming normal. What a issue that does not have a answer yet people try to put patches on a problem than actually stopping and fixing the problem
Abigail Judith (9 месяцев назад)
Kyle Jackson fun story when I saw the notification on my phone that 13 people died from a mass shooting I was in my math class, I glanced at it an read it and didn’t think about until I started hearing about the next day
I am a proper duck (9 месяцев назад)
This comment section is going to be a good
N BOR (9 месяцев назад)
Arming students and teachers would work. Learn them too how to handle armed enemies and how to minimize casualties. If it's inevitable to have casualties, you can still minimize it. Shooting the shooter is preventive
N BOR (7 месяцев назад)
DemonGrenade274 good, then you oppose an utilitarian principle. In the first place, why would prohibition or gun control work? And in the second place, how would you prevent a shooter from shooting without a gun or a less lethal weapon?
Penguin Fred (9 месяцев назад)
wow this didn't work? Scrap it.
DemonGrenade274 (9 месяцев назад)
This is the dumbest thing I've heard in awhile. "Learn them"? Really? Arming students? Yeah like its a good idea to arm hormonal teenagers who barely know anything about anything. Do you remember high school? Do you remember that the vast majority of students are emotional morons? Arming Teachers? Teaching them how to "handle enemies and how to minimize casualties"? They're not fucking soldiers goddamnit. It's not their job to engage CHILDREN with firearms. They've got enough stress as it is and don't get paid nearly enough to warrant going through military training. And yes, the training required would be similar to military or police training because simple target shooting does not prepare people for ENDING LIVES. Especially not teachers. And "shooting the shooter" is NOT preventive. You did not prevent a shooter from appearing. You REACTED to their presence and then acted to neutralize them. Nothing about that is preventive, its reactive
Sigma 88 (9 месяцев назад)
That's how (((they))) do it in Israel
Estryus Flemming (9 месяцев назад)
Daniel Husberg How is a gun the issue. It didnt walk itself to the school and then pull its own trigger. Without a deranged person, a gun is a paper weight.
Oslo MGTOW (9 месяцев назад)
I swear I got the notification and almost thought it was from _Turd Flinging Monkey's_ channel. .... But good video, man.
Oslo MGTOW (9 месяцев назад)
Ramír Delgado actor Well, you know MGTOW is not a movement, but a mindset that keeps spreading regardless if people have ever heard about it before, or not.
Ramír Delgado actor (9 месяцев назад)
Oslo MGTOW How's the mgtow movement in Norway? In Latin America the mgtow movement is growing fast.
Oslo MGTOW (9 месяцев назад)
Ramír Delgado actor Greetings to you too, fellow MGTOW!
Ramír Delgado actor (9 месяцев назад)
Oslo MGTOW Hi Oslo, I'm a Latino Mgtow. Greetings from Puerto Rico.
Alesso Coriandor (9 месяцев назад)
I came here because it was a similar name to "Thinking-Ape"
Clapping g. (9 месяцев назад)
god dam
Continual Improvement (9 месяцев назад)
Guns or any weapon in the wrong hands is a terrible thing.
Abigail Judith (9 месяцев назад)
Santiago I don’t think there is no good use for a gun, in fact I am completely for American citizens having guns, they do have good uses. I now better understand the self defense argument thanks to your feedback on my comments. But I do think that more guns or what I read as even more lax rules then we already have could be very dangerous. I also think that keeping the laws as the same as they are now isn’t the best idea...again it keeps resulting in death over and over again, and I know the media covers every single case of it because the internet wants I keep us engaged not informed, but having tighter rules could benefit. Not completely outlawing they, just a couple more laws.
Alesso Coriandor (9 месяцев назад)
Yeah we should disarm the government
Ezra (9 месяцев назад)
Ajudithh The US has the most armed populace on the planet but overall violent gun crime had been decreasing in the last decade. I get where you're coming from though. But you have to understand that criminals are more likely to fire upon a crowd in a gun free zone than one where one person in the crowd has a firearm as well and can retaliate.
Santiago (9 месяцев назад)
Ajudithh Well I'm not from The US, so I dont know The laws, but probably self defence is legal in some cases (like any county) but saying That there is no Good use for a gun it's not true
Abigail Judith (9 месяцев назад)
Santiago But what does personal safety mean? Is it just a threat? Is it something someone could use just whenever they feel threatened? What does safety mean in this case?

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