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Illegal immigration is controversial. But as you know, this isn't surprising. Since the very beginning, immigration has been a contested issue in the U.S. That fact is however, that we are a nation of immigrants. And immigrants today, whether legal or illegal, whether you like them or not, provide our country with much more than just those jobs that some of you think they took away. -- Subscribe To My Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoFWz1e3VXKOoJ-E5cep1Eg Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Thought.Monkey.Community/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thought.monkey/ -- Music Credits: Intro Music: Phoniks - Got to My Head Background Music: Joakim Karud - Love Mode -- Sources: The stories of several DACA recipients: https://www.nilc.org/issues/daca/daca-fifth-anniversary-stories/ 12 million undocumented immigrants, 1 million DACA recipients: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/27/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/ 4 million children born by undocumented immigrants: http://www.pewhispanic.org/2010/08/11/unauthorized-immigrants-and-their-us-born-children/ Denunciation of Muslim immigrants: https://immigration.procon.org/view.timeline.php?timelineID=000023 Why immigrants come to the U.S.: - https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/no-childhood-here-why-central-american-children-are-fleeing-their-homes#.U7StyKQ0DXc.twitter - https://www.aeaweb.org/atypon.php?doi=10.1257/aer.89.5.1337 - https://www.cgdev.org/publication/violence-development-and-migration-waves-evidence-central-american-child-migrant - https://wol.iza.org/articles/enforcement-and-illegal-migration/long Americans say immigrants destroy American jobs: http://library.cqpress.com/cqresearcher/document.php?id=cqresrre2012030900 Undocumented immigrants pay more taxes than the cost of services they use: - https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/110th-congress-2007-2008/reports/12-6-immigration.pdf - https://itep.org/immigration/ Why undocumented immigrants pay taxes: http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/19/news/economy/undocumented-immigrant-taxes/index.html U.S. economy would slow without undocumented immigrants: http://giovanniperi.ucdavis.edu/uploads/5/6/8/2/56826033/ageoftrump_june2017.pdf#page=70 Less undocumented immigrants commit crimes than Americans do: http://www.nber.org/papers/w13229.pdf Sanctuary cities are not more dangerous than non-sanctuary cities: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1078087417704974
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brian lupinsky (1 месяц назад)
illeagals use billons in welfare and work to.
jud dude (2 месяца назад)
Build that wall, then REMOVE TAMALES!
RC Jabroni yup (2 месяца назад)
How many illegal immigrants pay school tax ? Yet they flood our schools with many many children. They force school systems to hire translators that we the tax payers pay for. They get free health care. They get free welfare. They decrease property value. They lower hourly rates by working for less because they live 10 people in a bedroom. Sorry but your video is absolutely absurd. They cost u.s. tax payers over $135 billion dollars per year. Do the math it's not working out they gotta goooo...
OMNI HALLS (3 месяца назад)
Brett Thorndike (3 месяца назад)
The video states they pay taxes, "But leaves out a very important part", that they make so little that they get all their taxes they paid back in a tax refund at the end of tax year. Immigration is a Burden on all Americans
appleseedfanatic (3 месяца назад)
It's simple You tax what you don't want and lower taxes on that which you want Solution 1. Increase Federal taxes on all states with the highest crime and Illegal immigration. 2. Lower federal taxes on all states with the lowest crime and illegal immigration Solved
FBicoolshaman (4 месяца назад)
Lefty propaganda
Lukasz Jagiello (4 месяца назад)
Here’s a joke : illegal immigrant walks in to social security office And says hi I would like a SS card so I can pay taxes clerk replays sure let me see you driver license and birth certificate. II replays ow I’m here illegally but I want to make sure I pay taxes !! - shit never happens ! Illegal immigrants use fake ss number and or once from stolen identity smh
tadm123 (5 месяцев назад)
"Undocumented immigrants" Oh boy
smoke hazard (6 месяцев назад)
Thank god this channel died.. its so bad and full of misleading facts.
Alias (7 месяцев назад)
1:18 those children born of immigrants are citizens of the US if born on its soil. Also if people want to come in so badly then they can do it legally or fuck off.
Ray Milligan (8 месяцев назад)
This is Crazy!
Giselle Sandoval (8 месяцев назад)
These comments truly sadden me.....
Generic (8 месяцев назад)
This video is stupid. Your making the point that, "some U.S citizens commit crimes, so why not unnecessarily let and keep in more possible criminals, who don't have the right to be here in the first place." Stupid point.
Lachy Becke (10 месяцев назад)
thanks again for another great video man #tax your corporations more and everyone wins
Johnathon Anderson (11 месяцев назад)
REMEMBER! The majority of comments in something like a YT video will be done by someone enraged enough to comment! Take the number of comments hating on or approving the video with a grain of salt!
Jurassic Craft (11 месяцев назад)
You are not undocumented, you are Illegal
Aaron Crosse (11 месяцев назад)
Why do illegals get the benefits of getting free education up to masters degree? why not real Americans.
Matthew Barrett (11 месяцев назад)
Illegal immigrants don't pay taxes
Tawny Draws (11 месяцев назад)
Great video but I have a question... Why do the illegal immigrants come here undocumented? Why don't they just do it legally? You sort of mentioned this, but didn't really explain it...
Giselle Sandoval (8 месяцев назад)
The process is also very tedious (financially and the waiting time)
Thought Monkey (11 месяцев назад)
Most immigrants that come here illegally can't come here legally. They don't have the skills or income that would allow them to get even a work permit. There situations are usually so dire they are willing to break the law in order to create a better life for themselves and their families.
Staatsgewalt (11 месяцев назад)
The hole situation is the fault of the Us. It is suppressing Latin America already for one century. But this means not that you should allow illegal migrants to stay. The Us should better stop suppressing Latin America and help the to get rid of their corruption, even if it means, that another American country could seize economical power. We, on the the other side if the Atlantic, have the same problem too and it is also caused by the late consequences of imperialism.
Happy Langs (11 месяцев назад)
I don't quite understand why there are so many downvotes and angry comments.
Johnathon Anderson (11 месяцев назад)
Combine a historic fear of Immigrants within North America (Yes, in Canada to) with a rather frightening uptick in political polarization (and by extent, popularization of far right and far left movements) gives you a nice steaming batch of people who are not willing to listen to the other side of the argument, and immediately denounce the other's sources as "liberal bullshit" or "Alt-right propaganda".
Thought Monkey (11 месяцев назад)
There is a huge history of fear of immigrants in the U.S. Immigration has never been supported by the majority of Americans. It surprises me that there aren't more down votes. Especially with what's happening in Europe with all the Syrian refugees.
Name Password (1 год назад)
If you see or suspect illegal activity by Illegal Aliens, here is the number to ICE to report them: Report Crimes, Suspicious Activity, and Suspected Child Exploitation of Missing Children By Phone:(866) 347-2423 Online tip form: https://www.ice.gov/webform/hsi-tip-form
CmdrSlamm1 (1 год назад)
You left out the fact that the FBI tracks 'Hispanic' crimes as 'White' crimes, so OFC it APPEARS they have a lower crime rate. Also omitted is the fact that illegals that do work take jobs from low skilled/new to the work force/poorly educated LEGAL Americans. Those are all Self-Inflicted wounds no country should tolerate. Fact that illegal women & children get welfare while the men work under the table. That they cost us less than pay in taxes from illegally held jobs is absolute bs. You also neglect the WHOLE chain migration issue & that cost on tax payers. You've cherry picked your 'facts' to make a propaganda video. #BuildTheWall #DeportThemAll.
zam200864 (1 год назад)
brought illegally...fuck off
puzzlebox (1 год назад)
"illegal immigrants paying taxes" LOL
Saigon Pharmacy (1 год назад)
"12 million undocumented immigrants": Kind of makes you stop and wonder if ' National Security & Immigration Control ' are a set of complete and total multi-billion dollar fairy tales told/sold to tax paying citizens as if they were ignorant pre-kindergarten toddlers.
MrTegu (1 год назад)
Because they come from.shitty nation's we should just not give a flying shit about immigration laws are on the books and just accept anyone. I mean there are people who already have some great reubuttle comments but the amount of stupid shit in this video is just a joke
M R (1 год назад)
Giselle Sandoval (8 месяцев назад)
Kindness? Tf?
Tawny Draws (11 месяцев назад)
M Rose American "kindness" is that supposed to be ironic...?
Jon Hall (1 год назад)
Pretty disappointed in your one sided view. The sanctuary city thing really gets me. No effect, tell that to Kate Steinle or at least her grieving family. Thought monkey, you can do better than this. Take this criticism as intended, I like your work but you need to check your own biases.
Johnathon Anderson (11 месяцев назад)
+1 one for both sides on this one. Reasoned arguments + respectful discussion = Balanced opinions
Thought Monkey (1 год назад)
Thank you for your honest feedback. I try my hardest to check my biases. In this case I believe the evidence points in the direction that illegal immigration is not the issue and instead a symptom of a bigger problem (our broken immigration system AND countries not providing adequate opportunities/safety for their citizens making them leave and come here). Most people want to come here for a better life. Unfortunately we also get bad apples. The point that I try to make in the video however is that violence among illegal immigrants isn't as high as many think it is (according to the research I looked at). That doesn't mean it doesn't exist, however. And Steinle proves that. The main question to ask is what's the solution that will cause the most amount of progress with the least amount of harm?
rayray (1 год назад)
Another one sided lying pos propaganda vid, omitting the whole other side of drugs, disease, human trafficking, violent crime and rape, gangs like MS13 are overrunning cities, and the fact ILLEGALS are 7 percent more likely to commit crime. And that LEGAL immigrants are welcome. And his fake sources are just that, fake. Actual stats from government sources, Illegal immigration costs American taxpayers a mind-boggling $134.9 billion annually. Overall, state and local expenditures for services provided to illegal aliens total $88.9 billion and federal expenditures $45.8 billion, the analysis found. For those who claim illegal immigrants contribute by paying taxes, government figures show that only $19 billion was recouped by Uncle Sam.
Thought Monkey (1 год назад)
Care to link to your sources? Everything you mentioned has been debunked here: http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/cost-of-illegal-immigrants/ and here: https://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/taxes.asp. The numbers you cite were fabricated by an anti-immigration activist named Frosty Wooldridge.
Babieca! (1 год назад)
All these comservatives acting as if Illegal immigration somehow is equal to Murder. Its hilarious
RC Jabroni yup (2 месяца назад)
It's murdering our country. Think about it. All illegal immigrants are criminals that's a fact.
Durell Nelson (1 год назад)
I'm in no way saying you're dishonest, but the evidence you linked weren't studies. A study would have the method they used to find out what they did and the results they retreaved from it in diagram form. It would say who did the study and who funded it. That's all information I need to know before I can decide whether the information I'm hearing is trustworthy or not.
Tyler Durden (1 год назад)
Oh look more leftist clap trap about how illegal immigration is good. Hey it's all good though, throw the borders open let everyone in. It'll turn into the socialist utopia where we're all equal....ly miserable. "They want to perform their civic duty" GTFOH. This whole video is a lie, it's trash, your trash, kill yourself. You'll actually being doing something good for this nation, better yet, find all your liberal friends and murder them, then kill yourself. Then you have really done some good for society.
RC Jabroni yup (2 месяца назад)
+Babieca! Sorry but your wrong. They broke the law entering this country illegally they should not receive a penny from the American citizens. We need to help our own people $135 billion per year is what they cost tax payers. It's just not right. Think outside the box. Do the math. All illegal immigrants are criminals that's a fact.
Babieca! (1 год назад)
Tyler Durden Yeah, They Do itbillegally because it takes fucking forever! Maybe if it was a bit faster there wouldn't be so many illegals. Everything has a reason, and Illegals reason for illegally entering is because our current system is too slow. Thats why there are so many illegals you imbecile. If you're gonna claim some false moral highground on Your Horse so fucking high its A Commercial Airline, fine. I'm not going to reason with people who have such fears over boogeymen that breed nothing but contempt and ignorance.
Tyler Durden (1 год назад)
Rickyretardo oh man your so right, hahaha never heard that before have you. Seriously though have a life.
Babieca! (1 год назад)
Tyler Durden Wow. You're really delusional. You literally Went full emotional with your arguement outside of "They came here illegally". You are the hypocrite here, do not act as if you're something more than that.
Tyler Durden (1 год назад)
Rickyretardo you see this is why I don't give any evidence to you bunch of sheep. You never listen or care or give your own facts and figures or logical argument. Your literally brain dead zombies. So stupid that you can't question anything about an internet video because it fits your shitty narrative. Doesn't matter that illegal aliens are here ILLEGALLY. Doesn't matter that they actually do take jobs from legal immigrants and citizens. Doesn't matter that they have brought a wave of crime and drugs with them. Nope poor Esmeralda needs to stay cause all 12 million illegals are just like her. Poor down trodden yearning to be free. Give me a break, they are all just as silly and selfish as you. The law has been broken, but because there might be, maybe, could be some taxes from the illegals and poor Esmeralda we should let them all stay. You see you call on me for logic and reasoning yet use none yourself. Not only does this make you wrong, it makes you an asshole. You and your whole movement can go to hell. So see now douche nozzle, we ended where we started. With you still being a brainless zombie and me being your intellectual superior.
MAGA 817 (1 год назад)
More like social justice monkey! Bye Esmeralda! God bless America and God bless President Trump! Build the wall...
Muaaz Ali (11 месяцев назад)
How can a black man wear,a Nazi shirt and look proud
Doorman (1 год назад)
Defo a troll ayy
Babieca! (1 год назад)
Joe B A blacl guy with a nazi Flag shirt..... That's the funniest shit I've ever seen.
cynd winzeler (1 год назад)
and decided when an adult not to even attempt to become legal, while given in state discounts the LEGAL immigrants are not allowed. We allow more than any other nation to come- IF they want to be here and assimilate, why not come legally?
cynd winzeler (1 год назад)
They pay taxes on stolen ss numbers and DO get refunds. Therefore it does not mean they add to pay for costs.
Laura (1 год назад)
We are too crowded already, McDonalds just got busted for hiring illegals.  Boycott McDonalds.
Stormshell Entertainment (1 год назад)
what a load of bollox
Robert Dreher (1 год назад)
Lies! If immigrants kept adding tax revenue to society why wouldn't just move the entire earth's population to the US and be the richest country in the world, because the US would turn into a sh*thole like Mexico.
Babieca! (1 год назад)
Robert Dreher proof?
David Lee (1 год назад)
There's a reason we Americans are afraid of mass Islamic Immigration.  (Notice: I'm not saying generic immigration, nor illegal immigration mor Muslim immigration.)  It's the MASS, uncontrolled, immigration that Europe has experienced which then leads to a increases in rape, car burning, terrorism, anti-semitism... Oh, and call me a racist, xenophobic, hate monger.  Actually, I'm far from any of those, but I am fully aware of the political aspects of Islam.  See Bill Warner and the mass of related videos:  https://youtu.be/t_Qpy0mXg8Y
Babieca! (1 год назад)
David Lee That is incorrect. The truth about islam is that its the most conservative Religion of all. The rapist terror shit, thats the wahabi School of Sunni Islam. Look at the Ottomans, they followed Houfism, Which was much more Moderate than protestantism.
colby4430 (1 год назад)
OK boys and girls we need to school some illegal aliens go home fight and make your countries better stay there problem solved.
Staatsgewalt (11 месяцев назад)
colby4430 but the problem is caused by Us opression over centuries in this countries by making them dependetnt to the US (monroe doctrine)!
Babieca! (1 год назад)
colby4430 You think thats fucking Easy? You try friend
Uncle Randy (1 год назад)
The eight years under Obama are what I call the "UNIVISION ERA." Univision is a spanish television network which has encouraged illegal immigration in our country since it was founded, given that fact that illegals constitute their main source of profits. Univision does not encourage assimilation, and it seems they are determined to expand their market by vilifying Republicans who want to enforce immigration laws and also by contributing money to the Democrats. They are in a quest to keep control of the illegal immigrant market.
Babieca! (1 год назад)
Uncle Jasso Also Obama has deported 2 million immigrants. What are you talking about?
Babieca! (1 год назад)
Uncle Jasso Maybe cause the republican party has quite literally turned into the Worst party. #Libertarians
Non ya (1 год назад)
Same old rhetoric and propaganda - all of it lies. Do your own research and do not listen to liars like those that made this video.
Non ya (1 год назад)
Deport all these illegal lee he's. Enough is enough.
Danny Kosher (1 год назад)
deport all illegal immigrants...
tina A (1 год назад)
Illegal is illegal! We have legal immigrants waiting in line to be here! We don't want the non speaking English cheaters coming here! This is our home! The wall is going up! We illegals out! No excuse for them being here!
Babieca! (1 год назад)
tina A ¿Que? Me no Hablo Ingles, Por favor, Silencio Babieca.
Assesin2211 (1 год назад)
Yeah sure look at all of the mexican rocket scientists and engineers, we simply don’t seem to get enough of them.
RC Jabroni yup (2 месяца назад)
They're in the labs testing new Dorito flavors
David Duarte (5 месяцев назад)
kiran kumar (1 год назад)
You are an Immigrant for sure
Josh H (1 год назад)
Definitely a lot of good points here. You don’t explicitly take a stance but I think its safe to say, based on what you said, that illegal immigration is ultimatley okay because of the benefits it yields. While I understand the benefits you mentioned, I don’t see how letting immigrants come into the country illegally is in any way fair to the people who enter legally. What are we supposed to tell the people who come to the country legally?
James Brooks (1 год назад)
SO who should be allowed to come here? You think just anyone who wants should just be able to come here illegally and not face any repercussions? We can't just let anyone who wants to come into a county come. there needs to be some form on legal immigration for it to work right.
James L (1 год назад)
This sounds a little biased. Time to unsubscribe
Matthew Buckley (1 год назад)
Why do they pay taxes: "cause it's illegal if they don't". Ohhhhhhhh, so they care if something is illegal after breaking the law. Makes sense bro.
Peter Griffin (11 месяцев назад)
Thought Monkey they are still going to face consequences since they broke the law in the first place
Thought Monkey (1 год назад)
You are absolutely correct. But most of the immigrants that come to the U.S. would never be able to come to the U.S. through that process. So instead they risk breaking one law (crossing the border illegally), in the hopes that they will be able to live here long enough, then find an immigration lawyer, and be given permission to here permanently.
Matthew Buckley (1 год назад)
Thought Monkey what would give illegals a good chance of staying here is going through the process legally like millions of others.
Thought Monkey (1 год назад)
The reason they pay taxes is because it gives them a better chance of staying here if their case is ever brought up in front of an immigration judge. I clearly state this in the video.
TheTrueCanadian (1 год назад)
But what about the fact that they're undocumented? Say they commit a crime, how are they gonna have any idea who they are?
n Vang (1 год назад)
Dumbest video ever they put in more... research that does not include in other things. I'm Asian American and I don't agree with your video
Giselle Sandoval (8 месяцев назад)
Nothing Original my thought exactly...
Babieca! (1 год назад)
n Vang so? Does it really matter if you are an East Asian.
marijuano rivera (1 год назад)
People come here illegally aka BREAK THE LAW because they dont fear the consequences. If they did, we wouldnt have this problem or daca. Harsher laws for illegal immigration need to be in effect. As for the dreamers who are already here. Let them stay, our govt messed up and their parents took advantage of that. That doesnt make them guilty of anything but having opportunistic parents.
Estryus Flemming (1 год назад)
It is as disingenuous to point to illegal immigrants that get phds to represent illegal immagrants as it is to point to criminals to do the same. Also saying there would be a decline in the economy if we deport illegal immigrants assumes that we would just eliminate those jobs and not replace the workers with currently unemployed American citizens. The truth is that most illegal immigrants are refugees but since America is not recognizing them as that, they are forced to illegally immigrate. Since the process is illegal, criminals will be involved in this underground industry. The answer is for America to stop turning a blind eye towards southern America and its huge cartel drug empires. We just lock up poor Americans and allow immigrants to replace them in the economy because the Food industry benefits massively from it.
Brett Thorndike (3 месяца назад)
Estryus Flemming The video also does not mention any taxes the illegal immigrants may pay, they get a refund for, because they make so little. Also their children's education has to be paid for, it can't be paid for by a family that gets a total tax refund at the end of the tax season
paul lachance (1 год назад)
When my grandparents came to America, they stood in line like everyone else and went through a long qualification process.  Who do these people think they are by jumping the line or sneaking around it altogether???   If they break the law, they should be expelled or put in prison.  period.   Stop the bleeding heart crap.  Also, the little girl earned her master's degree by paying in-state tuition to get that degree at that university.  If I wanted to send my daughter to that university, I would have to pay out-of-state tuition to have her attend.  Do you think that is a good deal for a citizen vs an illegal???   YOU STAND IN LINE AND QUALIFY TO ENTER LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.  If you did that, most Americans would welcome you as I would.
paul lachance (1 год назад)
Ricky Retardo?  Ricky Retardo, you are aptly yclept.  You make my case.
Babieca! (1 год назад)
paul lachance ph boo hoo cry me a river.
Create Synergistic Transformations (1 год назад)
Roy Beck explains immigration factually. Many videos here's one. https://youtu.be/muw22wTePqQ
Tina W. (1 год назад)
I want them gone because breaking immigration law is a crime in and of itself they should be removed for. Furthermore, it is illegal to hire an illegal alien, and said employer should be punished under the law as well. It is not unreasonable to want the laws in your country enforced after they break them. You or I wouldn't dream of breaking another country's immigration law, so why does their particular sob story get a pass? More than that, it's grossly unfair to the immigrants who did everything right to be here legally.
AL (1 год назад)
I'm just happy i managed to get my US student visa. I'll just pay you for education and fuck off. Don't hate me please. i paid everything i should pay for XD But for real, illegals also harm me as an international student. I'm not talking about kids from DACA. I'm talking about people who get in as adults illegally. If a lot of illegals came from my country, the US embassy would start to reduce the amount of visas it gives for people who want to get in legally. That means a lot of students who want to study in the US for 4 years would be denied. Keep in mind that international students pay almost double or more for a university degree. We also pay a lot of fees. So at the end, you get money from us and we get a degree from a good university like Harvard. Both sides win.
ismellnegativity (1 год назад)
DACA was for illegal immigrants who came here when they were KIDS, and to even be approved for DACA had to meet high standards. Yes, illegal, but yes American grown, same as us. DACA is the main one thing I don't get why people fight against. I'd be glad to hear another opinion.
Continual Improvement (1 год назад)
“303 seconds” I love your precision.
LoganTNZ T (1 год назад)
>compares long gone racism with not wanting illegal immigrants >Gives a single example of an immigrant girl, which doesn't mean all immigrants are the same. Most of them do nothing productive. >also compares long gone racism with not wanting muslim immigrants. Even though they a commit a crap tonne more terror attacks per capita than any other religion/nationalit...by a landslide >also, businesses won't suffer on a big scale if undocumented immigrants left. Sure, 5% less profit, going to surely destroy the economy
Babieca! (1 год назад)
Calcifer If illegals are parasites, you must be the plague.
Babieca! (1 год назад)
Calcifer ¿Que? Me no hablo Babieca.
Russ Guastello (1 год назад)
are you stupid they claim exempt on their deduction form and then never file taxes why would they pay taxes with someone eles's social security number or they work for cash
Teo Torstensson (1 год назад)
What you said in the beginning is an absolute dream senario
jneutra1 (1 год назад)
illegal immigration will destroy the bargaining power of the American worker. You never addressed this concern.
Saigon Pharmacy (1 год назад)
No worries, in a few short years the robots will be replacing the immigrant workforce even faster than the immigrant workforce replaced us and everyone will be in the same boat headed towards the falls without a paddle or even a rudder.
xh00 (1 год назад)
Doesn't really matter anyway. It was destroyed when the big companies decided to move their industry to countries like China where there's an abundance of cheap labor. It's more often than not less beneficial for industry to stay in America than to move out. Another problem with a globalist world. Illegal immigrants are just a pinch in the back compared to the dent in the rights for the American worker the moving of the industry meant.
itgaam (1 год назад)
jneutra1 how?
mps (1 год назад)
they takin our jooooooobs
Grey World (1 год назад)
I’m am not entitled to a foreign country’s resources, nor am I entitled to their’s.
Chris Qiao (1 год назад)
I'm sorry but I cannot agree with you. The law is the law and you cannot try to stick in morals or feelings. I'd one law is not obeyed why will others be obeyed when the law is just a joke? Broken Glass theory.
Chris Qiao (1 год назад)
Thought Monkey oh yes definitely
Thought Monkey (1 год назад)
I see what you're saying about my example being outdated. Yes it is (at least in modernized countries). But I was not bringing it up to argue that people are still enslaved in the U.S by law. I simply bring it up to say that there are some laws that are or were morally unjust. And at the time many people believed that slavery was morally sound. The question is are our current immigration laws morally sound? Were these laws designed to bring justice to our society or not? I don't think it's something we can answer right now. But I do think the people who study our society in the future will have a much cleaner perspective than us on this issue.
Chris Qiao (1 год назад)
The Legit I don't think a wall or deporting those current illegals will work, i want them to be legalised and boarder security toughened after that. Getting rid of current illegals is about as hard as making america gun free so spending the resources is a waste. I think that the current cat and mouse situation should be ended as its going nowhere and boarder security should be toughened. And I don't care about family reunions, do it legally or don't bother at all, the world is not all roses and lollipops and just because you are a 'oppressed' or of some colour you do not deserve special treatment, I mean equality right??
Chris Qiao (1 год назад)
Thought Monkey we live in a time with a level of freedom never before seen in history. To bring that argument is out of context in our present situation, scraping the bottom of the barrel. And even if such a thing was proposed it will not be approved by Congress. There is a moral factor to be considered but illegals are illegal regardless, not refugees. I would support providing temporary shelter for refugees but once the danger in their homeland is resolved they are to return otherwise all thats going to happen is their homeland is going to degrade increasingly with time.
Thought Monkey (1 год назад)
If the law determined it was ok to enslave a race of people, would you still fight for its existence? Would you say that those who are enslaved legally shouldn't attempt to break the law in order to find freedom?
El pavo (1 год назад)
Truth. Now the other perspective, the origin countries. Since im not that well aware of the means of other countries or places imma give you the perspective of a northen mexican (a Chihuahua México native, born and raised). The countries from where this inmigrants come from often get fueled by the trafic of these ilegal inmigrants for being steping stones on the way to the U.S. ¿how so? Easy, they hurt they own economy, legal & political aspects by the following: financiating the crimelords of the area. In the last study of the INEGI (the national institute of geograpy and stadistics for their spanish lyric) conducted on april 2015 it was revealed that one third of the income from "la linea" in Chihuahua (being that is the most prominent cartel of Chihuahua) comes from treats of ilegal inmigrants either by "coyotes y polleros" -people who help people to transit to the U.S.-, slavers, people traficant and organ dealers just as much as narcotraficants. To put it on a more forseable way the cartel from Joaquín el chapo Guzmán "el cartel de Sinaloa" once was so rich and powerfull that ofered the mexican goverment to pay their external debt (debt that at the time was for over 156 000 million dollars on that moment) in order to operate freely on the nation. And nowdays "la linea" is just as powerfull with a third of the mexican territory under their control being Chihuahua their biggest state. Thing that actually romanticises the idea of being a criminal, being the original culture of a hardwork, pridefull unstopable and unapologetic town that Chihuahua once had prior to the 1930's into an state where the death is on the air and being the criminal who reings over the wasteland is the best you can aspire to be if you're poor by extension providing this groups with an evergrowing amounth of footsoldiers either by illegals who didnt crossed the border, left out children whom parents went and never came back, people born into poverty and soldiers who lost their faith on their country. And this is not even taking in account the war on drugs. I can further explain and deconstruct the issues that this brings like the apaty that it has brougth for politics, the fact that the U.S. releases dangerous individuals on the mexican border with no control or means to return to their countries (often withouth advicing authorities on here) or the fact that since the large amount of inmigrants had overwelmed the authorities we are now controled by 5 powers; judiciary, legislative, executive, military (they act independently, no legislative or judiciary power has authority over their descicions since the war on drugs started. Totally managed by internal voting) & the criminal (entire areas on here like Santa Clara, Cuchillo Parado & others dont even have police, the cartels manage the inforcement of law & order as judge, jury and executioner) and a large etc. Not to mention the "brain escape" were our most prepared people escape to another countries in fear of investing on their lands fail to end up stuck in here and ever so growing feeling of detachment of the population for their own land by a perfect storm of all of the factors prior mentioned.
Thought Monkey (1 год назад)
Interesting to hear that the border is a major source of revenue for cartels and other crime rings. It seems to me that the U.S. needs major immigration reform in order to address problems on BOTH sides of border. A ban on drugs allowed cartels to profit off of the U.S. thirst for them, while a ban on low skilled immigrant workers have allowed the cartels to profit off those wanting to immigrate to the U.S. Thanks for this El Pavo.
abel (1 год назад)
Calcifer is triggered af
Abyssinia Empire (1 год назад)
A border wall alongside Mexico would not be feasible. Most unauthorized immigrants arrive from Latin American nations I.e Honduras, Colombia or El Salvador, not Mexico. Instead I believe that helping to prevent the issues that causes both refugees and migrants to flee would be most beneficial for the United States internal as well as external politics. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution.
Abyssinia Empire (1 год назад)
Russ Guastello Not an argument.
Abyssinia Empire (1 год назад)
Trevor Taylor I don't blame you, I could have been more clear and concise. And touché.
T Bush (1 год назад)
Abyssinia Empire You seemed to be implying (at least from how I read it) that the wall would be infeasible because the migrants were not Mexican, instead being from other Latin American countries. Therefore, they don't have to cross the Mexican border. But I do agree that we should also try helping solve the source of the problem.
Abyssinia Empire (1 год назад)
Trevor Taylor If you were to have thoroughly read my comment you would have noticed that I never stated that the U.S borders any of the nations that I previously mentioned. Instead I was denoting that migrants crossing the Mexican border aren't Mexicans but are Latinos as well as Hispanics. Deterring migrants from entering the U.S will not prevent them from entering Canada. I do not want to maintain 'illegal immigration' I want to help solve what is seemingly to be a crisis.
T Bush (1 год назад)
If you were to study any up to date North American map, you would notice the only countries the U.S. borders are Canada, and Mexico (and not any other countries that you have stated). So unless they were to try to cross the Gulf of Mexico, or go out into the Pacific, and beach on the west coast, the only way would be able to cross into America would be by crossing the southern U.S. border. There for putting a wall alongside Mexico would not only deter illegal immigrants from Mexico, but by extension, Honduras, El Salvador, Colombia (I know Colombia is not in North America, but I'm pretty sure there is no border between Colombia and America).
JusTAfighter (1 год назад)
Brett Thorndike (3 месяца назад)
Seth Harrigan agreed, DACA children want Americans to pay for Alien education
Franco López (9 месяцев назад)
Slavery was legal, is it ok?
Isaac Pacheco (9 месяцев назад)
Slavery at one point was legal... "But it's legal" - Your logic.
ajax 711 (11 месяцев назад)
JusTAfighter Yes it is illegal BUT think why it is illegal. It is because most of them are poor and beg on the streets. But what about people like Emeralda or whatever her name was. She is working towards her Phd . She is a responsible citizen. She will add to the economy. People like these should be given a legalised citizenship
Josh H (1 год назад)
Well I think its important to understand that even if our immigration laws are unreasonable, that doesn't mean much because, again, the U.S. is not responsible for people living outside of this country.
SINGHIZHEM (1 год назад)
Bill Clinton on illegal immigration ... https://youtu.be/m3yesvvYEvs
General G. S. Patton (1 год назад)
You are also about to start WW3 in the comment section in 303 seconds.
Dennis Zonn (1 год назад)
Gaztons (1 год назад)
Dom Dukes Wtf are you talking you bloke?
Dom Dukes (1 год назад)
Whether I agree or disagree with your perspective in this video, I don’t appreciate that you nonchalantly use the number 33. Not that there’s anything wrong with 33 but we all know that that number has been used for the so-called “elites”, who are actually psychopaths,to communicate with each other… suck a di€k bit€h
Freshie (1 год назад)
General S. Patton why are u telling him instead of asking

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