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How drug companies make you buy more medicine than you need

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They make eye drops too big -- and make you pay for the waste. This is our first installment in our collaboration with ProPublica. Check out the full piece at https://www.propublica.org/article/drug-companies-make-eyedrops-too-big-and-you-pay-for-the-waste for their in-depth reporting, and stay tuned for more stories in this collaboration! Correction: At 2:17 the graph should read "Total US Spending" and not "US government spending." Subscribe to our channel! http://goo.gl/0bsAjO Vox.com is a news website that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Check out http://www.vox.com Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/IZONyE Follow Vox on Twitter: http://goo.gl/XFrZ5H Or on Facebook: http://goo.gl/U2g06o
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Will Burns (1 день назад)
So long as a Healthcare System is run as "for-profit", there will _always_ be the incentive to overcharge, waste more, and make money through shady practices. That's exactly how the healthcare system works in the United States, and why insurance companies exist - because if you don't have insurance, the hospitals just make some ludicrous number up to charge you for services.
Mitsubishi F-2 (2 дня назад)
Except for all the countries that have governments that pay for the drugs for the consumer. In which case its "How drug companies make your government buy more medicine than you need" before the government finally figures it out and yells at them.
Rachel Vass (2 дня назад)
Drug companies shouldn’t be for profit
Ricardo Pavan (3 дня назад)
That's why I say, put a wall around all USA, and just let it rot, no one would miss it
THEGAMINGHELP101 (6 дней назад)
I like my eyes moist
Raftika G (6 дней назад)
Why? These are resources. Why are they being wasted?
saturnfan32x (8 дней назад)
Am I the only one who tips my head, and drop in sideways?
Paul Eckert (10 дней назад)
They also waste alot of insulin in hospitals. Once a vial is used on a person it can't be used on another so they throw it away. This as a diabetic infuriates me as it's so expensive and there are so many diabetics that go without it at times because of the price. Really sad.
Bakeed Beans (11 дней назад)
Not to mention the fact that i lose the bottle of eye drops before even using half of it
-_- _o_ (12 дней назад)
Ok so I had a treat 2 hr ago and it kicked in as soon as I hit this vid up and like lol so ironic 😂😂😂😂
JeepGuy80 (12 дней назад)
I prefer the way they are... I use eye drops not only to lubricate my eyes, but to wash dust or debri out. If they switch all bottles to the smaller tips, someone's going to make a video on having to squeeze to hard because the hole isn't big enough... Better yet, people will start poking needles in the hole to make it bigger risking stabbing themselves. I'm not sure what the negativity is with the way things are... Some just spend more time trying to change something most of us could never have even come up with 😕🙃🧐
ModeratelyTrumpet (15 дней назад)
Waste is profit
Matt Laidlaw (15 дней назад)
It's really easy to use a partial eye drop if you don't drop it from as high as possible
mwscoot13 (16 дней назад)
This explains why stoners are broke
Logan (16 дней назад)
Companies that sustain life should not be able to be on stock exchanges.
Bhum Brahmavira (16 дней назад)
It's not wasted - not only the drops lube your eyes, it also helps flush out the crap out of your eyes. It's supposed to flow just a wee bit.
Scott Tarrant (17 дней назад)
Maybe I am missing something, but doesn't the waist also cost the Pharmaceutical Companies money too, after all it cost them to make the extra drug which is thrown out. it is not like it is being recovered and reused without cost. this video acts like there is no cost to manufacturing the medication in the first place. I can not understand how purposely creating waste is more profitable.
Austinnrood (17 дней назад)
This makes me so angry
Jingfeng Li (17 дней назад)
This video is misleading. The logic in the video only holds if we assume the cost or pricing is fully dependent on the volume of the final product. We know this assumption is false. The actual cost of manufacturing the drug is only a small factor determining the cost and price. Big ones are researching, marketing, how a patient is able to and willing to pay, and negotiation between healthcare and pharmaceutical companies etc.
James Livingston (22 дня назад)
my ex works at a pharma company, she tells me how she cant stand their bullshit.. I worked as a contractor at another pharma company and "got the jist" (via seeing how our project was managed) that the overall pharma company has money to burn, and just wanted to see why people seem to hate big pharma.. as I have often been "anti-capitalist" to an extent in my past.. but as I get older, I find myself questioning my beliefs, wondering if they have any basis in reality, or are the instances of big pharma/big corporations acting badly more so isolated incidents that get blown out of proportion in the public's eye, when put into perspective of the net actions of said businesses.. I still don't know..
Nayo Torres (23 дня назад)
Mankind is so easily corrupted
mrd33ds (24 дня назад)
worthless video. thanks
zack bandera (25 дней назад)
I never waste my medical marijuana
na x (25 дней назад)
Place the nozzle closer to your eyes and lift the lower eye lead and drop.
Geo Fox (28 дней назад)
Maybe you’re just a n00b?
Keijo 420 (30 дней назад)
If you get cancer, end your misery rather than feed the medical capitalism
XepptizZ (1 месяц назад)
The only reason these things don't get impleneted is lack of competition. Otherwise I'd patent the microdrop, market rhe hell out of it and become industry leader, but clearly this is a place where kapitalism and commerialism have failed.
Adam Ess (1 месяц назад)
I wonder if any part of the idea behind the larger drop is to provide a more substantial feeling of relief due to the increased wetness. I know that the majority of the drop ends up getting flushed out, but I wonder if it also creates a greater sense of relief for the user?
Fuck YouTube (1 месяц назад)
I don't buy medicine. Haven't been sick in 20 years since I lived at home.
DAVID BOWIE SAYING MEME SCHOOL (1 месяц назад)
Capitalism is despicable
red ak (1 месяц назад)
day after day i became not afraid of death because i don't wanna live in this world full of evils and money worshipers .
Steven Stoffers (1 месяц назад)
but it evens out! even Steven! in our favor!!!! the direct costs of the chemicals is not what we pay for... but we also get to way way underpay on other stuff such as when we fly.... for that one 99.9% of the actual costs are not paid until much much later... and by someone else! but this video is entertaining and what most of us want to "believe"... eh?
Zuzu (1 месяц назад)
Hospital only care about your money
linuxed (1 месяц назад)
My family suffers from tons of glaucoma- those drops are not cheap
AlchemistNZ Soapmaker (1 месяц назад)
Oh my god, that's awful, forcing the waste of life saving cancer medications. Drug companies are ripping off patients, who are already paying over the odds for these drugs in the first place. It's robbing the sick and the poor and is morally repugnant. Shameful. Quite why Americans are paying so much for the meds boggles the mind. Very few other developed countries have that problem. When a country has an state medical system, which covers every citizen or resident, the drug companies are forced to deal with a large entity, a customer who will spend billions with them each year. In order to keep that business they have to negotiate prices, dropping the prices on common medications by up 95%. Meaning we don't pay huge prices for medications used by many people. Having each hospital, each insurance company deal with the drug companies separately places those organizations at a disadvantage. They don't have big enough contracts with the drug companies to force a reasonable negotiated price on cheap to produce medications.
Cosa Nostra (1 месяц назад)
This videos made my eyes start hurting
Serpent Saviour (1 месяц назад)
I feel like 3d printing could fix the eyedropper problem, it's not a big part and someone with a 3d printer could easily print a lot of them even fitting on different bottles
Blake Freeman (1 месяц назад)
Why is it that everyone acts surprised that people in a capitalist society want to make money? What's the argument here? Rich people have too much money? We should force them to not make as much of a profit? Sounds effectively communistic to me.
Kris Carlson (1 месяц назад)
I still dont understand how the United States of America is the greatest country in the world while 643,000 people a year go into bankruptcy for medication while in europe, or even both of their neighboring countires covers their people regardless of income. It makes no sense.
AqarI [GD] (1 месяц назад)
I never tried eye drops :/
Ellie Hammond (1 месяц назад)
This makes my eyes feel dry
ClayZ (1 месяц назад)
I have no trouble with eye drops. The bigger than you need drop washes out the eye. That’s the point. Much ado about nuthin' imho.
Graydon Buchleiter (1 месяц назад)
Capitalism has no place in heathcare for this exact reason
Peter Sorensen (1 месяц назад)
Eye drop does not run down the face if used correctly! Most people are doing it always wrong! besides a drop must have some wight to come out of the bottle!
Iris Park (1 месяц назад)
You make it sound like medicine in itself cost money. They dont. If you're talking about the raw price the actual cost of the chemical cost a penny. It's the research, human resources, marketing, and what patients are willing to pay that determine cost of medicine.
J88go (1 месяц назад)
Umm, why don't hospitals repackage a drug once it gets to the lab. I mean, what does it mean if it remains in a vile does it become bad suddenly? Why don't we for example just buy a bottle with appropriate dropper and just use a syringe with a needle to transport the drug without it contacting air. Or why don't hospitals simply open the vile and put it in a reusable canister in a inert gas atmosphere or something like that, it's not like it is impossible?
jacopo mazzoni (1 месяц назад)
Sadly it's not an uncommon practice. A possible solution would be buying a micropipette.
Melody McDaniel (1 месяц назад)
Capitalism back at it again lmao
Psaikodelik (1 месяц назад)
In Europe eyedrops with naphazoline (allergies) cost around $2/10ml. Glaucoma eyedrops cost not more than $20/10ml :)
Eve 111 (1 месяц назад)
EVIL, Unadulterated EVIL !!!!
Lauren Conrad (1 месяц назад)
Does this also involve mental health drugs? I go to the doctor to get my monthly prescriptions. Sometimes I admittedly have some left over from last month, but I can easily say, “Doc, I have well over a 90 day supply of this drug before I see you next.” And then he’ll just skip that month’s prescription. And occasionally I might run out and have to call to get the drug in the mail before my next appointment. But it’s super easy to do that. Mental health drugs contribute to so much weight gain, drowsiness, and other side effects that I doubt that the doctor would put me on a higher dose of a drug if I didn’t need it for my mental health.
Back Nforth (1 месяц назад)
the 664 dislikes come from health profiteers
Adrien DriDrison (2 месяца назад)
american healthcare is so messed up luckily I live in europe
Yuval Sela (2 месяца назад)
Look, you still pay the same amount no matter if you use the intire bottle. The compenies aren't making money from this.
satisfiction (2 месяца назад)
"Clear eyes" brand fits 1 drop perfectly into my eye. Get skills.
Combat18KKKNazi4045 (2 месяца назад)
The price of drugs is mostly based on the amount of research. The marginal cost of medicines is very low, you cannot just say 50% of the product is wasted so we have spend twice as much as we could have. Lets assume that the current price of a medicine reflects the total cost (including profit margin for investors, research, advertisement, setting up production chain etc). Only a very small portion of the price will come from the base resources and production cost, so a 100% increase in volume might only increase the total cost over all products by only a fraction of this. We call this high-fixed low-marginal cost in economy. In other words, the larger than needed volumes are probably just a cheap way to supply drugs for a fixed amount of doses (drops, or days of treatment). If you guys are interested in more basic economy lessons, just contact me. If you guys rather continue making videos about how evil BIG CORPORATIONS are and how the ALT-RIGHT is racists and nazis, good luck ;)
LeafyisBeefy (2 месяца назад)
If i get cancer just let me die
Lawrence Han (2 месяца назад)
Why not someone make eyesore caps that are half or a third of the size of regular eye drops.
ider oujamaa (2 месяца назад)
Why not develop a device that can fit all eye drops containers to reduce the drop size. That the patient can buy separately.
D N (2 месяца назад)
Hundert of Dollars for eye drops ? Wtf ich don’t think i ever laid more than 5€
Brobama (2 месяца назад)
this is why healthcare shouldn't be driven by profit
Vlaicu David (2 месяца назад)
I've never used eyedrops in my life.
The Tiller Willer!!! (2 месяца назад)
so far I only took eye drops once in my life and it didn't roll down my cheek
DottierMage30 (2 месяца назад)
The cure for cancer already exists but its not being sold cause if they would sold it they would lose a lot of money....
Lourdes (2 месяца назад)
source?
d w (2 месяца назад)
maybe my eyes hold more or something but most of the time i get the whole drop in??
Jack Mackenzie (3 месяца назад)
Never used eye-drops in my life, are eye-drops just an American thing?
Tea Tea (3 месяца назад)
Cancer can be cured they just dont want to give the cure cause of money
Monkey Do (3 месяца назад)
The waste could have saved another person smh 😐
Andrew Woo (3 месяца назад)
Omg this needs to stop. Not only are we throwing away perfectly good medicine, but we're also throwing resources into making something that will eventually end up in a landfill. The first step to fighting climate change is reducing unnecessary resource consumption. This just contributes to the problem.
Emily Martin (3 месяца назад)
I take eyedrops regularly (I have uveitis). Firstly, my eyedrops cost €8 (suck on that, America), and the drops are not too big for my eyes. You're all just doing it wrong, or the American companies are ripping you off.
Feza Ozenc (3 месяца назад)
What is so difficult to understand? The cost of a medicine is not what you put in it but it is the r&d and other quality assurance costs. So when you reduce the volume of an eye drop from 20ml to 10ml, you will only save few cents worth of active ingredient or cost. People who know nothing about how pharma business runs are making these stupid allegations.
princesscool69 (3 месяца назад)
lol if you actually had a government funded health care system you wouldnt have this problem
dead january meme (3 месяца назад)
I can't watch this video withoit my eyes watering.
oopsy444 (3 месяца назад)
Thanks big pharma. I'll just die that'll show you
Livio P (4 месяца назад)
Well, I see an opportunity for patients cooperatives (on Facebook?) to pool the same med and re-package it. No?
Sam Schnaars (4 месяца назад)
My grandpa uses eye drops at least three times a day and this vid gave me the idea to use my schools 3D printer to make an attachment that uses the micro drop size
ArtClasstotheMax (3 месяца назад)
What school has a 3D printer?
Sheep in Wolf's Clothing (4 месяца назад)
a practical tip for the opening example of eyedrops is to pull out your lower lid and put it in that way. it won't fix the drug companies but it can make your eye drops experience more bearable.
savagedragon79 (4 месяца назад)
Clear eyes is the only thing that works for me..visine doesn't work and all the generics use the chemical in visine
Danny Nguyen (4 месяца назад)
you think it's just the waste of medicine? there's a looooot of waste besides the actual medicine in healthcare
trollolgaming (4 месяца назад)
Healthcare must be heavily regulated to work privatised
陈北宗 (4 месяца назад)
There is an alternative way of dealing this wasted medicine problem, very common in China: hospitals are often allowed to buy medicine in bulk packages (that is, for example, 5 liter bottles of eye drops or boxes of thousand pills in packages of one or two) and repackage them for their patients. It is common to see nurses splitting one vial of infusion into two or three even though the vial itself is supposed to be single use with the patients that received the infusion out of the same vial split the cost as well, or doctor giving prescriptions in number of pills packaged specifically for the patient. I wonder if it is possible to organize this kind of medicine splitting at a patient level: if two patient are prescribed with the same medicine but neither uses half the package at once, they can have a medicine splitting agreement that the two of them buy one vial of medicine together splitting the cost, and the hospital split the medicine between them. This reduces waste. As of eye drops, is it possible to use a (maybe 3D printed) plug to reduce the diameter of the opening to the microdrop sizes?
Adam Shomsky (4 месяца назад)
Does it actually cost anywhere near $5000 to manufacture that vial of cancer drug? Or does it cost $20 to manufacture and the other $4980 is to recover R&D costs and make a profit? If it’s the second case, wouldn’t they charge $4990 for a vial half the size, not $2500?
Thomas Stewart (4 месяца назад)
The people in this comment section complaining clearly haven’t taken a single economics class
Patrick Schaefer (4 месяца назад)
Greed should be a crime with guaranteed capital punishment
Veteran Drunkard (4 месяца назад)
Startup idea:3D print specialised caps to fit to most popular eye drops and make them microdrops.
Quinten Whyte (4 месяца назад)
"Capitalism cannot exist without waste."-Syriana, 2005
shahzaib iqbal (4 месяца назад)
Actually the pharmaceutical companies take like 800% to 1000% profit. So they dont care. For example the production of a medicine of retail price 100 is 7 or 8 dollars
Kirubel Beyene (4 месяца назад)
My favorite part was the 765$ billion year. I wonder how much student loans that would pay off?
Malfoygal (4 месяца назад)
I feel like it's understandable that the cancer drug comes in bottles the same size. Otherwise a big, tall, muscular person would have to pay more for a dose than a petite person would, and that's not fair. Obviously a non-single-use packaging would be ideal, but some medications need to be single-use in order to stay in ideal condition. Correct me if I'm wrong, as I am not a professional in any case.
Bruno Barbosa (4 месяца назад)
Fight for Free Healthcare in America, people are suffering with no need for it, just look at Canada and (here) in Europe, you know why this happens: GREED, that’s why!!! SMH! 😪😪😪
Aamir Vachku (4 месяца назад)
Capitalism!
1911 Guy (4 месяца назад)
if your a pothead, you become a pro at using eyedrops
Sous le Soleil (4 месяца назад)
Capitalism.
Jon Stevens (4 месяца назад)
Wasted eye drops are usually from catching on eye lashes. Wtf is this video trying to get at? I get that drugs are expensive and the drug companies at ruthless, but this is just plain dumb.
Victor Zosim (5 месяцев назад)
Why is everyone blaming industries for the costs of drugs in USA ? The expensivness comes from the governmental deregulation of prices and the very laxist negociations of prices with pharmaceuticals industries. Industries are capitalistic entities. They care about profit and will put the price as high as it can get on a market. It is up to the government to regulate these prices so that people don't have to buy drops that cost the same amount as a car. The problem is, believe me, not the noozle or the size of the drop. The problem is the absence of pressure from the part of the governement. In France for example, governement IMPOSES on industries how drugs should be packed. For example an antibiotic that is administered most frequently say 2 times a day for 5 days will have to be packed in a box of exactly 10 pills. (I know it would not be a problem in USA because drugs are delivered by unit), but the same philosophy applies to all kinds of drugs. Actually, the volume of the drop has to be calculated so that the correct dosage is administered. Another problem, that you didn't touch is that the patients often don't know how to properly take the medication as shown by the gentleman in your video who pulls back on his upper eyelid which does absolutely nothing good, but actualy impedes the drop to distribute correctly in the conjunctival sac. You have to pull down your lower eyelid which can hold at most 2 drops. You do have to be on your back when you do it. Microdrops are a great idea, but industries don't want that not because of some reason for profits (they could price the new bottle as high as the previous one...). It's because they have to change ALL of their production and that implies that they have to go through EXTREMELY arduous procedures of going through FDA. Again. No one does that, no one will.
Electriophile (5 месяцев назад)
Huh I always thought they were bigger to wash out any particles or debris in your eye.
Sinder Singh (5 месяцев назад)
You guys gotta adjust the volume between the narrator and the doctors.
Ezzie (5 месяцев назад)
smh
CmonSoundz (5 месяцев назад)
If the drops were smaller, they would just make the container smaller to keep the profit at the same level. The drops itself don't cost much to produce, so saving them doesn't do nothing.
86SuperRay (5 месяцев назад)
A universal healthcare system could fix all of this: private production, public subsidy for paying for the drugs for the consumers. Win-Win for both the producers and consumers. Add in competition from free trade and price negotiation like we should have in Medicaid and we minimize waste.

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