An acclaimed surgeon specializing in weight loss delivers a paradigm-shifting examination of the diet and health industry’s focus on protein, explaining why it is detrimental to our health and can prevent us from losing weight.
Whether you are seeing a doctor, nutritionist, or a trainer, all of them advise you to eat more protein. Foods, drinks, and supplements are loaded with extra protein. Many people use protein for weight control, to gain or lose pounds, while others believe it gives them more energy and is essential for a longer, healthier life. Now, Dr. Garth Davis, an expert in weight loss asks, “Is all this protein-making us healthier?”
The answer, he emphatically argues, is NO. Too much protein is actually making us sick, fat, and tired, according to Dr. Davis. If you are getting adequate calories in your diet, there is no such thing as protein deficiency. The healthiest countries in the world eat far less protein than we do and yet we have an entire nation on a protein binge getting sicker by the day.
As a surgeon treating obese patients, Dr. Davis was frustrated by the ever-increasing number of sick and overweight patients, but it wasn't until his own health scare that he realized he could do something about it. Combining cutting-edge research, with his hands-on patient experience and his years dedicated to analyzing studies of the world’s longest-lived populations, this explosive, groundbreaking lecture reveals the truth about the dangers of protein and shares a proven approach to weight loss, health, and longevity.
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I feel that this is somewhat deceptive. On the meat/dairy lobbyist driven side, the question of vegans is always, "Where do you get your protein?" Yes--generally eating a **good variety** of fruits/veggies/nuts/grains, one can easily get plenty of protein. However, on the vegan side, there's a rather dogmatic school of thought--fueled by talks like this one, that NOBODY needs more protein than can be supplied in veggies, grains, nuts, fruits. That is not quite true either. There are all kinds of physical problems, habits, physiologies, etc that might cause an increased need for protein in some people. I've seen too many people get on the "You can't get too much protein" OR the "NO one needs more protein" hobby horses. Both will get into trouble sooner or later.
protein will NEVER make u fat
it may fuck up ur arteries but nonono its so hard to overeat protein for the average person, u gotta put conscious effort into it do actually do it
it preserves lean tissue like no other macronutrient, and is more satiating too
if u get fat u eat too much starch and soda junk or too little protein (,or u overeat calories duh)
neither carbs nor fat make u fat if ur pancreas is normal, insulin resistance doesnt even matter that much except if it makes u eat more calories
let that be told to u by a raw vegan
its just facts, everything else is misinfo
protein is important
without it ull always feel cold, weak, dont want to do anything, have no libido (as a guy at least, females have this effect less, but they will lose their period or get too light periods), and generally will be less "loving"...and be always irritable instead
stahp vegan propaganda, be truthful u faggats
humans need a lot of protein
the rda is for not whithering away
and it will soon be increased from 0.8 to 1.2g/kg bodyweight most likely
if u r vegan uve to take into account that plant protein is less bio available (except spirulina) and that the amino acid profile is less complete in plants (except chlorella and spirulina), and lysine is low in plants
raw foodists vegans need to add even more protein cuz its even less bio available (dont be fooled by gurus saying otherwise, yes the proteins get denaturated but the aminoacids stay intact)
and thats the minimum, not the optimum, especially so in the elderly
and there is individual differencies of malabsorbtion and nitrogen balance ontop of that; its very difficult to figure out
if u r constantly hungry despite hitting the rda of fat (20%) protein and carbs (>130g) (and total calories of course) then u most likely need more protein
ull feel the difference when u increase protein, ur muscles will puff up and ull have better mind muscle connection, which imo is nice; always being weak isnt nice
sooooooooDark the RDA is not the minimum or for people withering away - it’s the recommend amount we should consume each day to get all our nutrients, and is actually above what we need. The EAR or estimated average requirement, which would suit most healthy Americans, is what we need and RDA has gone above that just so ensure all nutrition requirements are met. Elderly people may need more protein due to sarcopenia but they also need to do more resistance training. It isn’t solely on protein intake for them. With that said, the average healthy American does not need more protein than the RDA amount and could actually have a bit less. Too much can be harmful, in particular with animal protein, on the kidneys; not to mention the heart and other parts of the body.
My food log looks entirely different from his patient's food log. I feel like sharing it here.
1. My breakfast typically contains paper dosa, coconut chutney, orange, peach, apricot, plum, granola, blueberries, strawberries, and almond milk. I switch it up from coconut chutney to other ones like tomato chutney or masala or sambar lentil stew.
2. My lunch usually consists of a one bean burrito fresco style from Taco Bell because I like hot food when out of the house, then I have apple, banana, and grapes because those are less messy fruits in the office I work in.
3. My dinner has a much larger variety of options. I might have a large salad of spinach, arugula, any type of lettuce (except iceberg), chick pea, green peas, carrots, avocado, and a goddess tahini dressing mixed with hummus (tastes just like thousand island). Then I have one or two chapatis with some kind of vegetable curry like baby corn or eggplant. And for dessert, I might have watermelon, or other type of melon, mango, lychee, and guava. I only take my D3 and B12 a couple times per week in the mornings.
I have wasted over 8 minutes (played at double-time speed) and I STILL don't know what this guy recommends as an optimum daily protein amount. And the TITLE of this video is "how much protein..."? Geez!
Athletes, soldiers in basic training, and weight lifters need more protein than the average office worker. There was a study that tested this in those going through basic training. It wasn't just the calories, or the carbs, those that received a little extra P recovered faster, had less injuries, etc. The doc looked fat and ovetweight because his diet probably sucked. Now, he looks like an average healthy middle aged man, but hardly a body builder.
Mathew, so who does have a lot of knowledge on nutrition? The dairy industry? The supplement companies? Or PhD Biochemists like T.Colin Campbell? Or perhaps a doctor who studies obesity for a living? Or maybe your "bro" at the gym is an expert?
Sorry but your "Flex" magazine or your "Muscular Development" magazine doesn't qualify. Lol
Davis starts out telling us that he knows he's preaching to the choir and then proceeds to do exactly that for the entire 16 minutes and 12 seconds. We've got to listen to sixteen minutes of what is wrong with the American diet. We already know that or we wouldn't be sitting and listening to his pitch. We want to be educated on what to do. And he never gets around to answering the protein question. The fact that he's a medical doctor and has never studied nutrition shows. His pitch is eat a plant based diet and you'll be fine with protein. Not true. It isn't automatic. The problem isn't in total protein. Everyone get enough of that. The problem is the amino acid requirement of the body. Many vegans get 50 to 60 grams of total protein, but if they are big fruit eaters they may only get 20 to 30 percent of critical amino acids like Lysine. And as a result the muscle, bone and organs are only allotted 1/5 to 1/3 of that 50 to 60 grams. The rest can't be used to built tissue or replace bone. It's broken down and used as simple energy. The last thing you want is to be like Dr. McDougall who at 67 fainted in his bedroom and fractured two vertebrae in his back, his hip and end with a spiral fracture of his upper leg bone. That's what comes from a diet that recommends a maximum of one cup of beans a day. Forget total protein and focus on getting the RDA of the 9 critical amino acids. Your total protein will fall into place automatically. Don't be surprised if your protein level ends up to be 80 grams. Eat you beans, or tofu and plenty of them. Plant based diets can be great if you design them to be great. Never assume just because you're eating plant based you're covered. To many vegans have made that mistake and end up leaving that way of eating.
BumperPlates I remember dr. Greger in a video (don't remember where, but search in his site nutritionfacts.org in YouTube) di claiming that the ideal protein requirement for most of the population is 0.75-0.8 g per kg of healthy weight
You saved me 10 minutes. Have you come across any good resources to figure out how much protein we need to be getting? I'd like to find the target amount where I can build muscle and not stimulate IGF-1 too much.
I easily get more than 1 gram per kg of weight of protein following a 2100-2200 Cal whole-food, plant basse diet, with more than 100 % of all essential aminoacids. In a minimal varied vegan diet the chance of NOT getting enough protein or EA is simply ZERO
I love the way Garth Davis talks, I can listen to him for hours.
I do agree that most people focus way too much on protein and that we should base our meals on whole grains. However, I do think most science points toward a higher need for protein if you want to build muscle (which of course must be accompanied with heavy workouts).
Many bros over exaggerate on this for sure, but from what I've read, getting less than 1.6g of protein per kg of body weight will make your muscle growth less effective. This is easily achievable without protein supplements by simply adding more beans/nuts/peas/tofu/tempeh to your diet and EATING MORE. Because if you want to build muscle, you must be on a calorie surplus.
K. Lynn Gearing it's a common theme among tree hugging vegans ,look what being a vegan did for Hitler and Germany, vegans do good for about 2 years after giving up meat and then their health starts to tank
Whether he's right or not, he does say some things that are simply accusation. When he started accusing the bodybuilders of being on steroids that was hearsay and uncalled for. I've trained for over 40 years with zero drugs and I have more muscle than the average Joe who doesn't train. Also, when he was mocking the guy for not training legs based on a photo where his legs are covered, that is just lying to create the illusion of something evidential. Those types of shorts make the legs look smaller than they actually are. I guarantee this guy's legs are big and muscular. I can tell by the shape of them and the way the shorts hang. All bodybuilders legs look smaller with these types of shorts on. I'm not saying I don't agree with the Doc, but he's saying things that are false and that makes him appear like a liar to many people. I actually agree with his philosophies, but don't like that he feels he has to mock people like the guy in the pic.
You're one of those degenerates whose grammar is worse than a 4 year old aren't you. That's rhetorical since everyone can now see how illiterate you are. What you meant was "you're" and "pick." Move along like a good self-defeating invalid.
I wasn't saying it makes sense or not. If you look at my original post I clearly stated: "I'm not saying I don't agree with the Doc, but he's saying things that are false and that makes him appear like a liar to many people."
I was only referring to the things he said that appear a bit shady. ;-)
Haha, you could be right and I could be wrong, who knows man. Maybe his joke (or not joke) simply fell flat and was in poor taste, but I suppose i wouldn't lose the forest for the trees so to speak and mainly listen to his overall message and see if it makes logical sense to you or not.
Respectfully, I disagree that he was "just" making a joke. Why allude to legs at all when being sarcastic if he didn't believe that the guy had small legs and hadn't therefore trained them? These public speakers know there are a huge factions of the population that know little to nothing about the topic at hand. So, to throw statements like that out there, joking or not, can paint a false picture for those not familiar with the topic. These guys do this to bolster their contentions, period. If anyone knows you have to choose your words well for those who aren't familiar with subject matter, it's guys like this who speak publically quite often. He knew exactly what he was doing. He said it in a sarcastic way, but meant what he said. Take care.
The intro music is a bit too hokey/dramatic. Otherwise I love Garth Davis. I read his book Proteinaholic. He is a great example of someone who believed eating meat was great, until he started feeling bad, and found out the truth for himself.
Interesting he pointed out that people with heavily muscled bodies are likely on steroids yet on his Facebook page he posted vegan bodybuilders and when it was pointed out they are likely on steroids he called the person an idiot.
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It seems like in America not only do we get too much protein but we get too many calories too many carbohydrates too much total fat saturated fat and cholesterol too much of everything as it relates to diet...I believe this is responsible for the diseases and obesity more than high protein alone.
However you can see that with the increase in snacks empty calories junk food and fast food the decrease in Whole Foods and plant foods goes with it.
Perhaps as in everything else,balance is the most important aspect. a whole food plant-based diet. I don't believe that it's a mystery that when you are weight training for muscle building you do need additional protein the question is how much additional protein??
I'm such an outlier, I practice methionine restriction which is, in effect, protein restriction. I was all happy because my blood test came back and my protein had gone from 7 to 6 which my doctor assured me was nothing to worry about it (which I already knew). I believe in science, so I know that protein is absolutely necessary in our diet but not in the ridiculous amounts that the powers that be suggest.
You did NOT answer the question: How much protein do we need?
I felt cheated. And I wasted my time. Now I have to search for others to give me the answer but I won't know if it will be the same as yours because you failed to tell your viewers.
+vistagraphsnet You're correct. I feel like the talk was cut short. I would have liked to hear more.
He only implied the answer, but did not give a quantity or percentage directly. But he showed the plate from Ghana and the USDA plate with mostly fruit, grains, and vegetables. That's the answer. If you eat a well rounded, plant based diet you won't have to worry about protein. I'd add that if you're have to think about which of the many foods you have to select from is best, your issue with protein is much more likely to be too much than too little.
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