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Why a waiter refused my tip in Iceland

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I learned something very important about unions while I was in Iceland last week.
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ice water (5 месяцев назад)
The decline in corporate tax rates (capitalism at it's best ) has ended the nuclear family in the white world.
ice water (5 месяцев назад)
Tipping is include in the bill in Holland
Tera Inkognita (8 месяцев назад)
Big lie!!! Ahahahhahaha.....
Lucy Had. (1 год назад)
Put that tip right back in your pocket...Some are Idiots...That will be good if America started paying enough,so we wouldn't have to tip.
John Hooper (1 год назад)
Because in iceland they pay reall good money.. and they care about what people are getting paid.. in western world they get payed so low and they are getting told.. yes but you are getting tipps.. WTF nothing but outsourcing your salery tax free for the owner..
Zulubal Andre (1 год назад)
beacuse he was blonde and blue eyed and believed that the his country's welfare system would pay for all his needs forever and did not feel that he had to bow himself for dirty things such as money
Craig Dicker (1 год назад)
That's class, the government recognises that if you have a job you have the right to a good salary, England is screwing us
missljean (2 года назад)
Americans need tips because their economy is a absolute shit. I remember when I went over there you had to tip everything it was annoying
Freezy Frank (3 года назад)
Can you believe I one time get offended because of tip ,I didn't even know what tips means And this Canadian lady I served for her in restaurant cashier and she give me five dollar tips which was good money according to where I lived Africa but I didn't knew she meant to be nice I said thanks madam I really appreciate your offer but I am satisfied with I get paid again thanks
Arrakis Spice Trader (3 года назад)
This is what UNIONS can do for you! VOTE CORBYN!!!
spikefivefivefive (2 года назад)
drive up the cost of doing business?
jon jonsson (3 года назад)
com on folk´s any land in the world have it´s good point dont talk like all of the folk´s are stubit it is not right 90% of pepole are good and dont look at ther land as bad it is not like that but it is ups and down side any wher so just try to see the good one and hope the bad one will be fixt so we shall try to live as a friend dont matter wher you are from take care of the pepole of the world and it will be a better world to live in
Kellie Nicholson (3 года назад)
The system of tipping is demeaning to workers.  Business owners would never hang out a sign that says, "Pay what you feel the item is worth," because they know that they would be cheated, just like most tipped workers are cheated by cheap, ignorant patrons everyday.  Some customers use the tip as a way to demoralize those who serve them using the power of a tip to make the worker beg, jump or bark like a dog.  What most often goes ignored in this conversation is the mental abuse some customers inflict on those in the service industry.  The effect is no different than a spouse verbally and mentally abusing their mate.  If tipping is really a good system, then I think we should start tipping (instead of paying outrageous fees) doctors, mechanics, actors, musicians, consultants, teachers, etc. according to their performance.
Ghostnotes (3 года назад)
South Korea is the same way, tips are considered "pity money" that most people will not accept.
Jóhann .Fönix (3 года назад)
As someone who has lived in Iceland his whole life I just don't understand tip. Like if someone gave me tips at my current job I just wouldn't know what to do with it. Is it for me, is it for the company, do I buy something for all my fellow emploeys? What is this extra money for??? I just don't get it...
Luca Toscani (16 дней назад)
The whole tipping thing is one of the reasons why i cant stand North America . they should tip everybody then not only waiters or taxis
fordgt402 (1 год назад)
How about appreciation for the service provided like courteous taxi driver or hardworking bell boy.Maybe , Icelanders life are so well off that money issues always take a back seat.That means the government have created a true paradise on earth.
Sam Serious (1 год назад)
Tipping is a thing we americans do because workers here find it disrespectful if you do a great job and don't get tipped. It's because most people here believe that if they do a good job then they deserve to be rewarded or otherwise recognized for it. It's dumb however here in america if you don't tip you're liable to get some dude's spit in your smörgåsbord with a side of pubic hair in that shot of brennivín. So naturally with this fear most people leave a tip. Unless you're smart and just cook you're own food. It generally has nothing to do with how much people get paid with the exception of a bar-tender those people do pretty challenging jobs.
Frabbledabble (3 года назад)
+Jóhann .Fönix tips are an excuse for americans not to pay their employees....
The Eh Team (3 года назад)
People just assume you make about as much as a Chinese worker if they do that. So the money is on top of your $2 an hour.
WhiteMustang88 (3 года назад)
I just scrolled through these comments, and I'm surprised no one has mentioned why we tip in America--and this has been debated for many years by pretty much everyone who ever goes out to a restaurant:  *Even when service is bad* You tip because you know the waiter or waitress DOES NOT MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO LIVE on salary alone.   In some states, they make minimum wage + tips, which can be decent money.  In other states, wait staff don't even earn minimum wage!  And that means that without the tips, they're earning such a low wage that the government has actually made it illegal to pay any other employee (in a non-tip job) so little.  As if minimum wage were enough live on anyway... but THAT'S THE REASON AMERICANS TIP.   Americans who go out to eat (since tipping a restaurant waiter is the most common form of tipping) are subsidizing the pay of the employees in that establishment.  So that $14.99 item on the menu is actually $14.99 + sales tax + worker's salary (tip), because the proprietor thinks it's appropriate to charge the customer for their product and service (obviously it is) AND the customer is expected to pay a direct portion of the employees' salaries. I am a union member, and whether union officials are politically motivated, and whether they use the union's power and influence to get rich, and whether they truly have the best interest of lowest members deep in their hearts... I MAKE MORE MONEY THAN NON-UNION WORKERS, GET TREATED BETTER, AND ACTUALLY EARN A RESPECTABLE LIVING WAGE.  I wish all governments, unions, and corporations were 100% honest and had everyone's best interests at heart, but assuming for now that they do not (so as not to be completely naive), it would be foolish to denounce the decent wages provided by unions at my own expense, because an impoverished workforce does not boost the economy--not when we're all shopping at the "company store."   THE PROOF IS IN THE RESULTS.  Union workers earn decent wages.  Iceland's approach to national fiscal policy and dealing with a banking crisis worked.  Theories, rhetoric, and America's real life handling of economics, irresponsible banking, and worker empowerment (or lack thereof) has resulted in... 
germslover666 (4 года назад)
What this guy is failing to realize is that if the rest of countries of the world were to do like Iceland, who would buy all those private jets, expensive cars, etc.  You see if you were to pay people a fair wage it would take a few bucks out of the pockets of multimillionaires and is that really fair?  You have to pay six hundred dollars to get a fairly good seat at football game so the team can pay some guy to run around on the grass either trying to hit someone or not get hit by someone, or your paying incredible prices to see some guy throw thru a hoop.  That's why I quit watching professional sports years ago, because in years past player and owners could actually claim to be part of the city in which they played, now players leave the second the second they get a higher offer, and team owner's demand cities pay to build stadiums for them and then move in the dead of night, there's just no loyalty to the fans either way.  I remember as a kid players as a rule stayed with the same team for the majority of their careers and it did not cost a months wages to go to a game, it's just sad these day I guess.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
WhiteMustang88 (3 года назад)
Corporate takeover of professional athletics = run like a business; shareholders first; profits trump loyalty every time.  I stopped watching sports (aside from the occasional world cup or a basketball championship when I'm at a friend's house and they want to watch it) about ten years ago.  When I do catch a random NFL game or superbowl (again, usually because I'm at someone's house when it's on), one thing I notice is they seem to avoid risk, trick plays, and high-paid quarterbacks running risking big hits to score game-winning touchdowns, like the old greats when I was a kid, John Elway, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Troy Aikman (and more whose names just aren't in my head right now, but you get the idea) -- those guys used to really PLAY THE GAME, and their teammates took risks, coaches called unexpected plays -- they went for it on 4th down!!!  Now, when I see a lot of these games, I think of corporate America and phrases like "we have to protect our assets"; "minimize liability"; "take it to the board"; "cut our losses and write it off."  Don't let your star player make a risky play, because if he gets hurt, you can't sell all the tickets and $100 jersey's with him on the bench.  Don't call that trick play, because the owner, who probably knows very little about what it's like to be on the turf, digging in your cleats, clenching your teeth, bleeding for love of the game... the owner is looking at a spreadsheet with a bunch of numbers that supposedly represent a winning strategy.  The game has lost its heart.  It's big business, and it's more and more about the money, as each season comes and goes.  If I wanted to watch corporate executives play cricket at Club-Med... I would.  If I want to watch FOOTBALL, I want Madden, Hank Williams Jr., mud, blood, guts, and grass and players who aren't slaves to some digitized system of strategy, coughed up by an office jockey hired by the owner because he wants to maximize some statistic that, although it may seem relevant to winning, has little to do with the excitement that used to be present when the players took the field, the electricity that danced on blades of grass as the players settled in at the line, and the sheer excitement of the little kid who dreamed he might be that superstar who risked life and limb to make a superhuman effort to score the winning touchdown, hit the grand-slam home run, or score that buzzer-beating jumper.  But now I sound like Jerry Maguire, and everyone's gonna pat me on the back for telling the truth and then laugh at me later, because I really mean it. You wanna know what the sad part is?  People watching these boring attempts at athletic entertainment ACTUALLY AGREE WITH THE CORPORATIONS.  As for me, the thrill is gone... sorry for the rant.  I wish it weren't necessary.  
Guy Ice (4 года назад)
Takk Fyrir...     Yes Iceland is better then pretty much everywhere.   Most of the world is a shithole due to two reasons..  overpopulation and religion.  Neither which are issues in Iceland.   We want to keep it that way.  (Hint--Muslims stay OUT).
Tera Inkognita (8 месяцев назад)
LOL!!! Narcis...
Stetson Griffin (2 года назад)
+James Block Maybe everyone should convert back to being a human!
Ivan Gudmundsson (3 года назад)
+Guy Ice Hættu með þessa helvítis fordóma.
James Block (4 года назад)
+Naruto Bubblegum But "Muslim" is not a race. It's a follower of Islam. Which is an evil religion. I'd even compare it to medieval Christianity. Christianity and Islam are evil. We should all convert to Sikkhism, since they're badass, and it is pretty much the only real religion of peace other than Buddhism
Freyja Dana (4 года назад)
 If you really believe this you are simple minded
Danielpall Smarason (1 год назад)
What? There is no tipping in Iceland.
rockit730 (4 года назад)
What a fucking idiot.  Cardcheck?  Didn't we have that debate already?  Wonder how much America's unions paid this guy for this little anti-democracy commercial.
Search4Truth (4 года назад)
Just an excuse to whine about to something. Tips have nothing to do with charity. A tip suggests no more than one is satisfied with the service rendered. That's all. It is not because the customer thinks the vendor needs money.  Perhaps they refused your tip because they didn't like you. Just saying.
tambocha (4 года назад)
Tips don't even suggest that the quality of service was good anymore.  They're expected whether the service was good or not.  And the percentage keeps going up.  In the 80s it was 10-15%, in the early to mid 90s that somehow changed to 15-20%, and now I've heard people say 25% is appropriate.  
Petr Kolosek (4 года назад)
hehe and when weate in a RVK restaurant they get tip of 2000isk and she gladly brought the credit card machine back to give them tips.... but from other site, it is the americans who are silly, in Europe you hardly give tips..so it could be a story about silly american who has no idea how it works abroad!
Pragwo1f (3 года назад)
Surprised to read someone with a Czech or Slovak name making such a comment.  I am sick and tired of Prague waiting staff expecting a substantial tip-often in return for very poor or downright rude service... Ty jsi snad blbý Čecháček, který neumí zametat před vlastním prahem...
stebbi lúðvíksson (4 года назад)
speaking as an Icelander. I must say that with more tourism, there seems to be more expectancy on tipping.  Not that they need it. Personally I see it as greed.  I used to work as a bouncer more than 15 years ago and I never accepted tips. I was not insulted. I just felt it was not necessary.
gradostax (4 года назад)
If the vast majority of a people are willing to give and take only what they need, the system will work just fine like it does in scandinavian countries.
gradostax (4 года назад)
This depends on the people running the unions, in iceland everyone is 'equal' and of 'equal humanitarian worth' in every sense of the word. So corruption is less likely. It still happens but is much lower then corruption in the USA.
MNVikingsforever (5 лет назад)
Unions are fucking stupid. All they lead to are the exploitation of the worker by the unions themselves, and they are nothing more than another engine in the political machine. Make no mistake, it's not about the worker or consumer rights...it's all about money to the people calling the shots one way or another.
Chandan Maddanna (5 лет назад)
That's self respect Thora. Iceland is beautiful and people like you make it evident. lotningu mín !
BloodFeather (5 лет назад)
you so silly american *raffs*
BloodFeather (5 лет назад)
wait .. you actually believe that? XD
everybodyseye (5 лет назад)
It's more an observation than an opinion. My opinion on the mater is, there are givers and there are takers. The givers keep giving and the takers keep taking until long after the givers are gone. The government and corporate financial system allow the takers to take on a grander scale. In the end a taker is a taker whether its a nickel or a billion dollars.
TheRagingRabbits (5 лет назад)
And created beautiful girls, such as yourself <3
Jón Jónsson (5 лет назад)
Capslock off, breath in, breath out. Are you okay?
TheAceHD (5 лет назад)
This guy would bring upon the destruction of the entire US economy in 6 months.
JadMaister (5 лет назад)
dreb sjalv
oranjuh (5 лет назад)
This video shows the difference between the USA and Europe in its essence.
Brodir93 (5 лет назад)
I've heard that in America people are expected to tip, which sounds like a silly idea to me. You should only tip for exceptional service. I guess that is what they do in Iceland and it's what we do in the UK too. I can understand then why people from America would be confused as to why their tips were refused.
Svala lover (5 лет назад)
I'm from Iceland :) here's some proof. Hæ ég er frá Íslandi :)
everybodyseye (5 лет назад)
I would say that Iceland effectively removed greed from the population. In U.S.A. a waiter could be making $110.00 per hour and still expect a tip.
sassulusmagnus (5 лет назад)
That is interesting about tipping. In Canada one generally expects to tip in places where the employees don't earn a basic wage adequate to live on, such as in restaurants. I try to tip generously when I can; but I wonder whether the custom also provides a smoke screen to cover the problem of inadequate wages.
Miike Hunt (5 лет назад)
Unionization will not fix the issue, it will just accelerate the immigration of companies abroad. Low interest rates and quantitative easing have paralyzed the economy.
chris4072511 (5 лет назад)
It always strikes me that the USA tends to treat everything as if it only has two possible cases and they are extreme opposites. Thus, everything which isn't an unregulated free market is treated as if it is communism. The fact is that a certain amount of tax and regulation makes the whole place better for everyone except the super rich, and they are still super rich anyway, so it's no big deal really.
CarMoves (5 лет назад)
The Conservatives in power privatized the banks and deregulated them. And the economy crashed. Sound familiar?
Rainer67059 (5 лет назад)
Of course, I didn't mean that the unions officially rule the waiters musn't take tips. I meant that those who undermined the free market and created the unions are also responsible for the custom of tip refusal. What do you believe the "opinion" of the people stems from? Do you think they formed this opinion themselves. Somehow it was implanted into them. And this we can guess will have the same source as the unions.
Muddurinn (5 лет назад)
You're misunderstanding a bit. The unions negotiate a minimum wage for each class, it's illegal to pay less than the minimum, but it's encouraged and pretty common for businesses to pay more than minimum to lure in the best employees. And the unions have no rules against tips, people here just have the opinion that you are not supposed to rely on the customers giving you charity for doing your job, therefor people can even get a bit offended when offered tips, cause they feel like they're poor.
ekcoylejr (5 лет назад)
The failure of left wing ideology is displayed over time. Luckily, socialism has failed in the US almost immediately. Unfortunately, socialism's failure gets blamed on capitalism. Over time the ethical people of Iceland will find that socialism is a lie and their interests are best served by free floating prices and wages.
Petur Thorarinsson (5 лет назад)
It´s not banned to receive tips, listen to what he is actually saying.
Allan Haywood (5 лет назад)
Don´t forget to tip the bar staff......
Rainer67059 (5 лет назад)
A dictatorship of the unions. The union negotiates for each profession how much they earn. The union wants the worker to have no more than what they negotiated. They ban the workers to have more income by the means of tips and achieve this ban by means of indoctrination: "You earn enough. It's an offense to offer you extra money." I've always considered Iceland to be the best place to live, but after this news item no more.
CarMoves (5 лет назад)
You're kind of a dumb guy
Anna sol - (5 лет назад)
thanke you im from iceland
Jóhann .Fönix (5 лет назад)
The keyword is 'almost' ;) - We're fine thanks. It where just our banks that went bankrupt
Jóhann .Fönix (5 лет назад)
Hmmm... really... couse I am sitting here, in my office, in Iceland and people are doing there buissness as usual and the system runs as usal as well
Jóhann .Fönix (5 лет назад)
Thanks, I'm flatterd :) - Greatings from Iceland
hermenutic (5 лет назад)
Sounds Good Thom but it won't work here. The privileged like to feel good tossing pennies to the little people.
IRWIN DAYDREAM (5 лет назад)
look how there living now
Thora x (5 лет назад)
I completely understand :)
Thora x (5 лет назад)
At the same time our nation has survived the most brutal situations for centuries. :)
Muddbug (5 лет назад)
Its like we're poor??? Didn't the entire country almost collapse 5-6yrs ago?
PianoMan Smith (5 лет назад)
Back in the 1950's i was stationed with the USAF at keflavik for 18 months. Loved the weather, ESPECIALLY the blizzard in January of 1958, the day i got back there after 30 days at home. If i had no family, i would have gone back to Iceland to retire. That's how much i enjoyed it. I do not like the warm weather, "Iceland is great"
seganindento (5 лет назад)
yeah but if you have seen it all your life you want to see something else :P
TheIcelandicPrincess (5 лет назад)
I can give you few reasons why it was like that. Our land is rougher, the Danish kingdom closed us from the world for around 500 years, no way of buying weapons to fight them, food was worth more then gold, no gold or other expensive metals are here, people had to move to Denmark to get an education and only a handful were able to. I tell you what we did though. We survived more then 500 years of harsh winters and little food. We are survivors and in the end we have build a class one society.
Rod GS (5 лет назад)
Good ol 'Murica.
Danielle Tallon (5 лет назад)
I'm from Scotland, but I work in Iceland for icelandair. I love it here, wages my job, general life. Icelanders are, as a whole, really friendly people. Great place to work & live
Petra María Rögnvaldsdóttir (5 лет назад)
I know..I live there xD
Andri G (5 лет назад)
Iceland is not a 3rd world country
Vitringur (5 лет назад)
The economics of tipping is very interesting. The newsman should maybe read some literature about the subject instead of creating his own answer and presenting it as truth. -icelander
SRCmandan (5 лет назад)
America has a corrupt fiscal system. That's why it's very bad at the moment. Look at places like Iceland and Australia and you'll see that our high taxes and good management make wealth for everybody. The fact that rich people don't pay high taxes is the problem, in the worlds developed countries they should expect 48% if income is over $250000. Biggest problem in the US at the moment.
SRCmandan (5 лет назад)
or in Australia! :)
Arnar Gylfi (5 лет назад)
YEAH! im from iceland
meh (5 лет назад)
Russia Today = still more reliable than mainstream American media...
Guy Ice (5 лет назад)
This is true. I am unfortunatly leaving Iceland tomorrow after being here a while. Iceland is,, in my opinion, the greatest country on Earth. America... hey.. guess what..... WE SUCK. Iceland has gotten it right. Stop patting yourselves on the back USA and LEARN something from other, more advanced cultures.
IceBlueBeard (5 лет назад)
Why wouldn't it work for a large nation? It will work because the workers are also the consumers so if you pay them well they will use more money for consuming benefiting everyone.
GovernMentalFreedom (5 лет назад)
Only Americans need tips here's - Get away from the federal Union/all Unions and learn to live rather than beg !!!!!!!!
thesatanic6 (5 лет назад)
its just a different scale thats all the rule is the same
roodawgy1 (5 лет назад)
Yes, and iceland is a country with population 300,000. There are more people in the city of Washington DC. This model WILL NOT WORK for a nation of 350 million people.
Danny (5 лет назад)
RT. hahaha
blablabla (5 лет назад)
And yes its reason to be optimistic about the icelandic economy because the current goverment won´t be in charge after next election so whats happening in the future is that here will be lots of investments opputunitities in aluminum and oil. It might take some time to get the system back to track but as an Icelandair I say its reason to be optimistic and looking forward to the future.
blablabla (5 лет назад)
The question is how you look at the picture. Techically Iceland is bankrupt. Foreign debts are just too much! But if you look at it when looking at people´s wealth then I say hell no. People here have jobs, nice cars, nice roads, clean water, enough power, enough food on the table. I say Iceland is not bankrupt when it comes to quality of life.
Nokkvi Freyr (5 лет назад)
Cool story bro.
georgsson22 (5 лет назад)
dislike-aði þott ég sé islendingur, flottur samt að koma frá islandi...
GothAmaterasu (5 лет назад)
I didn't... I'm not the same person that said those things...
DrCruel (5 лет назад)
Again, this isn't an argument. You simply said some stupid things and are now trying to pretend you didn't. I'm just pointing that out.
GothAmaterasu (5 лет назад)
Well, sorry for being a small country with few cases of crimes. I like it that way, and you are not to argue unless you know what it's like.
GothAmaterasu (5 лет назад)
As if you're one to talk, Icelander.
GothAmaterasu (5 лет назад)
Don't say stuff you don't know anything about...
neeeepa (6 лет назад)
i am Icelandic and i am offended . please give me a tip!
D mar (6 лет назад)
You're not very informed , if you only knew how this place works.
José Fonseca (6 лет назад)
allgoo19 (6 лет назад)
Same in Japan, they don't take tips, but not because of union. Another reason Tom mentioned applies, people see it as an insult.
TraustiGeir (6 лет назад)
Oh, look, a troll.
TraustiGeir (6 лет назад)
But only if you choose to. In America it's expected, always.
TraustiGeir (6 лет назад)
You've really got to do your homework pal.
crankylifter (6 лет назад)
Iceland really is one of the most beautiful places on Earth.
crankylifter (6 лет назад)
Iceland really is one of the most beautiful places on Earth.
flatulatingmarmoset (6 лет назад)
I am a taxi driver, running by myself, and I wouldn't refuse a tip....probably because my business is a colossal failure and I need the money.
DrCruel (6 лет назад)
Forcing people to pay for those wages and benefits through taxes on everyone else. And using union nepotism to choose which these elite "workers" get these special jobs.
Friðgeir Einar Kristínarson (6 лет назад)
What is so leftist about letting people unionize and fight for a decent living wage?
hero2d0s (6 лет назад)
Iceland. Population 350 thousand people.
Steinunn Jónsdóttir (6 лет назад)
café's in iceland takes tip's and many tourist places!
TheSage555 (6 лет назад)
Iceland amazed me visiting here. No one struck me as poor, and no one struck me as rich. I saw the first female taxi driver and visited the first nation in which a woman was Prime Minister. This is what equity looks like, and it is stunning. Iceland's flirt with banking was a bust, but it seems that have the resources and lively populace needed to put the pieces back together.
Snagabott (6 лет назад)
They went bankrupt in 2008-09, yes. That was born out of a classic overheating of the economy. And in stead of the slow death that is given to eg. Greece, it meant a lot of pain in those years with a sharp decline, but then back to growth. I think what he's talking about here is more of a long term consideration, and then it's not at all certain that the US isn't hurting itself by effectively leaving a large portion of the population behind.

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