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Ahlam Ayyad (28 дней назад)
I loved this so much, I am currently in the same shoes.
Brian Fung (18 дней назад)
I'm attending on behalf of my current employer. If you're interested, I'll also be presenting: https://eventscribe.com/2018/ASHP-Meeting/fsPopup.asp?Mode=presInfo&PresentationID=382349 Looking forward to meeting you!
Ahlam Ayyad (20 дней назад)
YESSSS! OMG I'LL SEE YOU! Who are you representing? and yes I am definitely enjoying it! Thanks again and I look forward to meeting up with you !
Brian Fung (20 дней назад)
sounds like a plan! If you're going down the residency route, I'm assuming you'll be attending midyear. If so, maybe I'll see you there! Good luck on rotations - it's the best part of pharmacy school aside from graduating haha
Ahlam Ayyad (26 дней назад)
HAHAH, I meant nauseous! But, I will definitely keep you posted. For now I think it's best I focus on getting into a residency program and passing my boards. And if after I still have that passion for medical school, I'll pursue the medical route!
Brian Fung (27 дней назад)
Lol this made my day. The nausea is real...I had to step out multiple times. Youtube was a good way to densensitize for the really traumatic ones. Let me know what route you end up going! I only knew a few of my classmates that ended up going for it
J P (1 месяц назад)
you are such a motivation, thanks for your story
Brian Fung (27 дней назад)
Thanks JP!! I'm glad it helped :)
Michael Nguyen (3 месяца назад)
I really appreciate your perspective here. I'm about to start applying to pharmacy school in a couple of weeks and I was having second thoughts because of everything I read on the forums how its miserable it is. I'm in the middle of debating whether to just go ahead and try for med school next cycle so this really helped alot.
Brian Fung (3 месяца назад)
Hey Michael! Glad you found some insight from the video. Just to further add, and this is completely my own observation and opinion, there is definitely an overwhelming amount of negativity towards pharmacy out in the public - notably due to the saturation of pharmacy jobs, continual openings of pharmacy schools, and overall job satisfaction due to increased responsibilities. However! I would also say that this type of feedback is more geared towards those pharmacists working in the retail/community setting. Again from personal observation/opinion, I would say the overall job satisfaction among pharmacists who work in non-retail settings (e.g. academia, hospital, industry, etc) is much higher and the saturation isn't nearly as bad as retail/community. Of course, I'm just speaking very surface and there are many exceptions to what I'm saying. In any case, whichever path you choose, I wish you the best of luck! Let me know how it goes!
Jacob L (3 месяца назад)
People always seem to shy away from medical school because they think it's going to be a terrible lifestyle and they'll be on call 24/7. This is not true. There are many specialties and opportunities for you to live life fully and still be a doctor. The beginning part may be rough in terms of getting in medical school, going through residency, but after that.. life can be pretty good. There are many fields in medicine, literally countless. Not everything is surgery.
Brian Fung (3 месяца назад)
Hey Jacob! Thanks for the perspective. It’s actually somewhat surprising to hear that considering many of the attending physicians I talked to while thinking about entering medical school discouraged me from pursuing it because of the lifestyle. Granted, I also wasn’t fully immersed within the medical community - more so just the physicians I encountered during rotations. I think if more people heard your perspective, it’ll be more positive and encouraging to those thinking about entering medical school!
Mudit Verma (5 месяцев назад)
Thank you for the highly informative reflection! Super helpful!
Brian Fung (5 месяцев назад)
Thanks Mudit! Glad you enjoyed it!
Igor Hawkingz (6 месяцев назад)
Its economic s. I love Chemistry...Ill stick with pharmacy. Alot of ppl a fearmongering yes its saturated now, but what isnt now a days? Theres lawyers, accountants. When Everyone switches to MD. That will be more room for me :) in Pharmacy u have so many career paths to go. U dont have to do retail. I love pharmacy because I have low.tolerAnce for blood and diseases and all that jazz. I rather be the one giving u medicine lol
Brian Fung (5 месяцев назад)
You’re absolutely right, everything is saturated lol. Though, if given the chance, I’d probably go back and do engineering. Since that didn’t happen, pharmacy worked out cause I’m just like you - no blood and guts for me!
magt (6 месяцев назад)
Do you have an idea why pharmacy around the world nowadays seems​ to be saturated? And what else is the difference between pharmacy in the past and now?
Brian Fung (6 месяцев назад)
They don’t no. The agency that accredits new pharmacy schools only says yes/no they meet accreditation standards, there’s no limit on number of pharmacy schools. I get the impression that most students interested in pharm are aware of this now though and have second thoughts about entering based on what I see on forums and talking to students. I’m thinking it’ll balance out over time with supply and demand though.
magt (6 месяцев назад)
I'm not from the US, but doesn't the government regulate the number of pharmacy schools and pharmacy student enrolments? Also, is there anything currently done in the US to relieve this problem?
Brian Fung (6 месяцев назад)
That's a great question! I can't really speak on pharmacy saturation outside of the US as much of my knowledge is limited to within the US. With that said, I think the general themes that have influenced a saturation of pharmacy begins in the early 2000s. There was a shortage of pharmacists in the profession and it was heavily advertised. That likely led to the lucrative sign on bonuses ($10-50k) and growth to a 6 figure salary for the profession. Lots of students became interested, myself included, and everyone wanted to be a pharmacist because it had flexible hours and a easy path to 6 figures. With that said, an insane amount of pharmacy schools began popping up to accommodate this need and the supply of pharmacists started to grow exponentially to the point where the demand is lower than the supply - leading to saturation. The problem, is that schools continue to pop up...further adding to the problem. IMO, schools are popping up because it's extremely lucrative for them to charge students insane 150-500k in tuition. You can likely find hundreds of articles talking about all of those things in more detail if you're interested. In regards to pharmacy in the past and present, I think there are a lot of differences. I'm not sure if you had a more specific question in mind, but I think two notable differences are 1) heavier emphasis on clinical roles - especially with the 2004 shift to PharmD as a the minimum degree and 2) the degree in which information technology, especially automation, has impacted the profession. Hope that answers your question!
Reza Amirzadeh (8 месяцев назад)
Pharmacy job is so saturated now. MD would have been way better.
Brian Fung (8 месяцев назад)
way too saturated....I can't handle the blood though for MD route. If I had to re-do, I probably would have stuck to my original goals of becoming a computer engineer.
Seth K (10 месяцев назад)
Why I didnt go to medical school -> Why I couldnt go to medical school
Brian Fung (10 месяцев назад)
:)
The Ate Up StudentDoctor (1 год назад)
Your reading comprehension score was about the same as mine and I'm a medical student. You would've been good enough for medical school :-)
Brian Fung (1 год назад)
+The Ate Up StudentDoctor thanks!! Appreciate the vote of confidence! Saw a few of your video btw, good luck on your journey through med school - cheers to you!
Zafeer Fazelbhoy (1 год назад)
hey Brian, wanted to share - https://youtu.be/Bbgf6XaEuko
Brian Fung (1 год назад)
+From PharmD to MD thanks for sharing! Hope everyone on my channel will see this too!
Zafeer Fazelbhoy (1 год назад)
Hello Brian, thank you so much for sharing your experience between battling med school urges and pharmacy practice. I could SOOO relate to your thoughts while rounding in hospitals and wondering whether I should pursue med. I'm currently a M2. Graduated PharmD in 2014 and have worked inpatient, outpatient, retail and everything in between and finally decided to take the plunge in 2016. I have absolutely no regrets today. I think what really pushed me into a medical career was because I was so fed up with the limited scope of practice that pharmacists have. As a pharmacist, we learn so much in pharm school and apply so little. I was tired of feeling so inadequate. Secondly, I also couldn't live without knowing what would my life have been if I hadn't tried one last time (got rejected 2X prior to pharm school). Anyways, I think your video would really help out those outliers in pharm school who are considering a switch to medicine. Also if any of your viewers need any advice on the switching process, id be happy to help. Thank You.
Khaled Ramadan (1 месяц назад)
I wanna contact with you sir from pharm to md
SILO B (3 месяца назад)
From PharmD to MD Currently a pharmacist and I am considering going back to med school. Would you be willing to walk me through the process that led you to your path now? What were some of your challenges, and also what kept you motivated
Brian Fung (1 год назад)
I mentioned you in my most recent video (https://youtu.be/h4hLmmhisx4) because these are the kinds of comments I was hoping to get. I imagine there are a ton of students hoping to get your perspective on the topic. Appreciate your share!
Areeba Ashrafi (1 год назад)
I came to your channel searching for whether or not i should do Md. i recently came to this idea of doing Md after pharm-d . I graduated with pharm.d in 2012, basically 2013 when i got my degree. I still have to clear oscy. Dnt attempt thou. If i think of md after i clear my oscy. How many years i have to do after 4 years of study? Im asking about residency n fellowship . Please guide. Also im 29 years old. Honestly speaking, is it worth it now?? Im excited but confused as well. I also love trauma surgery. Plz help me clear my mind
Brian Fung (1 год назад)
Hey Areeba! Great questions - I actually just created a video that will hopefully answer your questions! https://youtu.be/h4hLmmhisx4
Lina Germilus (1 год назад)
I wanted to be a pharmacist but my grades are low I ended up have a bachelor degree in biomedical science in minor in chemistry it was though now I have my son who's 1 year old now. I wanna find my purpose and be example to him. Now I'm between PA or pharmacy.
Brian Fung (9 месяцев назад)
that's still awesome you got a bachelor degree! Did you end up going with PA or pharmacy?
Pharmacy Academy (1 год назад)
Is your pharmacy school gpa above 3.5?
Brian Fung (1 год назад)
It was, why do you ask?
pharmakon rx (1 год назад)
hi.came across your channel and its amazing.Can you make a video on how you desensitized yourself in the process of applying to med school.
Brian Fung (1 год назад)
Appreciate the kind words! I certainly can in a future video and can also share some here as well. During every one of my APPE rotations I would go and ask my preceptor, med student friends, and random surgeons if I could shadow various surgeries. This was certainly the most challenging and nearly fainted on many occasions. I also spent a lot of time watching traumatic reconstructive surgeries and traumas on youtube to get a sense of how one goes about handling fast paced surgeries (I wanted to be a trauma surgeon). I got used to it for some time, but after responding to a traumatic tracheostomy one time, I couldn't do it anymore...
NASIR KHAN (1 год назад)
hello. i am Pharm D gradutate and now i want to do MD (doctor of medicines) .i am confused that what will b duration of MD after Pharmacy and what will b the subjects ...because most of friends says that duration will b two years ?please give me answer .m waiting very excited
Brian Fung (1 год назад)
Hi Nasir - I'm sad to say that the duration of medical school after pharmacy school is no different than if you went straight into medical school. It'll still be 4 years of medical school, at minimum. When I considered medical school, I was thinking 4 years of medical school, 1 year internship, 3 years residency, 2 years fellowship in infectious disease for a total of 10 more years AFTER your PharmD. Even with the advent of the first PharmD/MD program at Rutgers (see article: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2168479016652926 ), it is still a minimum of 4 years PharmD and 4 years MD. Hope that helps and best of luck to you!
Aydan Sparks (1 год назад)
Hey Brian great video again! Do you have an email that I could ask you a question about this topic?
Brian Fung (1 год назад)
Aydan Sparks feel free to shoot me an email at fung.brian@mayo.edu
Kevin Yee (1 год назад)
Brian great job with this video!
Tim Kirk (1 год назад)
hey Brian. I like the way the you eloquently articulate your thoughts and opinions. I am a practicing pharmacist. I can't say that I considered Med school during pharmacy school. I was anxious to graduate and start practicing. Pharmacy school was almost 200K in CA, and took me 8 yrs to get a pharm.d post HS. I just wanted to pay off my loans and living the "adult" life. After practicing pharmacy for several yrs, I regret not going to med school bc of the pharmacists saturation and other problems that we have in the profession. I feel like pharmacy was much better in the 90's and early 2000's compared to nowadays.
RTahavori (6 месяцев назад)
Tim Kirk I disagree with you on Pharmacy used to be better in the past... Just a few decades ago you were not allowed to even counsel patients on their medications... Just a few decades ago Pharmacy was literally counting pills and putting a sticker on the bottle (and the occasional compounding). In terms of job market, saturation is not unique to pharmacy.... I know many bright medical students and medical residents who desperately trying to look for a job. The issue of saturation is a health care issue, not a pharmacy-specific issue
Brian Fung (9 месяцев назад)
that's quite unfortunate to hear Dennis! Hopefully, that will balance out over time.
Brian Fung (9 месяцев назад)
Hey TR - I know this question was directed at Tim, but I'd like to add some food for thought. The short answer to your question would be - it depends. Personally, I suggest individuals pursue careers in industries they are truly interested in. The ones who do, are the ones that excel in the field, represent the profession well, and shouldn't really have too much of an issue finding a job in a saturated market. I really think that passion is a hedge against unfavorable job market conditions. On the flip side, if you aren't interested in pharmacy for the right reason (e.g. money), I'd certainly suggest against it. You'll end up hating the job and it'll certainly reflect in your job interviews and search lending yourself to be quite unmarketable in an already saturated market. Hope that helps!
Dennis Kahara (10 месяцев назад)
i believe you are right, I am a finel Pharmacy student in Kenya and I see the market is flooded and the pharmacist are being kicked tot he curb because of other counterpart qualifications.
TR Yen (1 год назад)
Hi Tim, would you encourage people to find another career if they are currently trying to pursue a career in pharmacy ?

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