The expert's panel discussion on dairy and eggs in human diets.
Brian Clement, Ph.D., L.N.
Anna Maria Clement, Ph.D., L.N.
Pamela A. Popper, Ph.D., N.D.
Julieanna Hever, M.S., R.D., C.P.T.
Garth Davis, M.D.
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Minimally helpful. As it goes on, this panel broad-brushes and argues and apparently assumes, such as in dairy, that people eat whole milk versions. For example, no mention of low fat or non fat yogurt. That combined with the cheering Rah-Rah audience seems to give this the impression that it is as much a PETA program as a serious unemotional food discussion.
These idiots are the worst possible people to ask about the value of eggs. They all have an irrational fear of eating animals, as well as animal products, so of course they all see only the dark side of eggs. You need to ask scientists and doctors this question ... there is certainly a debate about eggs and cholesterol, but from my recent reading eggs are good for you as long as you are a very active person and workout several times a week. I'm a body-builder so I eat 3 hard-boiled eggs a day to supplement my daily protein.
TheMamspoker mam ernistein shepard the oldest black body builder drinks 6 raw aggs everyday go look her up on YouTube she is amazing I think she is 82 or so now and is still in amazing shape lol tell her she can’t have her eggs lol NOT hahaha she is my inspiration worth a look I say
Lmao I eat eggs everyday and have done that since I was a kid. So have my grandparents and parents. All are healthy. Y’all watch out for those super- food coconut hemp seed infused electrolyte flax seed bars with 45 grams of sugar.
For those who think dairy & eggs aren't bad for you, here are some studies that prove otherwise. IGF-1 is present in these foods and it can increase risk of cancer in the colon, pancreas, endometrium, breast and prostate:
Vegan proteins are good for you and reduce risk of cancer growth, cardiovascular disease and obesity (of course I'm not talking about coke & fries type vegan diet but a whole food plant based vegan diet):
Fast foods, added sugars, refined carbohydrates, flavor enhancers, ethanol, tobacco, processed foods and a sedentary lifestyle is making us sick. This is missinformation simply confuses the real root of the problem.
How are these fucking idiot science deniers doctors lmfao absolute morons. Dude on the left spewing absolute nonsense about dairy products. All the "studies" they use to back their positions are poorly performed biased cherry picked information that has been debunked several times.
These doctors need to stop lying to the public. Raw milk and A2 milk is very good for you. Also eggs is a wonderful source of protein pending on the source. Duck eggs, swan eggs, ostrich eggs, pheasant eggs, etc are great sources of protein. Cholesterol is not bad for you like these quacks would like for you to believe. When someone with a MD behind their name gives advice make sure you do your own research. They lie on purpose to support the pharmaceutical companies.
This video was bittersweet, i've always had asthma and eczema, a few allergic conditions and have now been only eating plants for 11 months to a year and my asthma and eczema have been pretty much unaffected by the change in diet - still have both. I know a lot of other people have had success though, i'm looking at other parts of my diet to try to help out, maybe just reducing inflammation etc.
not everybody is the same, some people can consume dairy and eggs and can benefit from these foods without any problems, some they dont. If your body reacts well to these food continue and eat them, if you ar lactor intolerant, you have heart history in your family etc avoid them. Its as simple as that
No it’s not. There is nothing wrong with consuming eggs. Animal fats and meats, including dairy are the only produce that contains vitamin A and K2, all essential for heart health. Heart history in your family? Avoid eating processed food, vegan or not.
I actually had a chiropractor doctor tell me one time not to eat dairy including eggs I had ti actually point out to him that eggs are not dairy. All of these doctors are quacks if their doctors at all
Go to gym hit weights eat eggwhites greek yougert chicken turkey fish nuts oatmeal brown rice sweet potatoes/vegs fruit/gym rats nation vegans are small skinney weak unhealthy balanced diet is important
these people are completely wrong about eggs, the cholesterol theory has long been debunked, consuming cholesterol does not automatically raise serum cholesterol levels. eggs are the single most bio available source of protein on the planet. the longest living people on earth actually do eat eggs, the Okinawans eat eggs as a staple in their diet. protein is a vital nutrient in maintaining and repairing cells, it is also a requirement to build muscle mass, which we know, for a fact, not even close to subject to debate, is the single best thing you can do for your health. adding 30lbs of muscle mass to your frame will have an enormous impact on your rates of cancer, heart disease, osteoporosis, arthritis, atherosclerosis, dementia, Alzheimer's, and diabetes. it will also significantly reduce your rates of hip fractures or other injuries that put you in nursing homes at old age. it will have a far, far greater impact on these things than any sort of dietary change will.
I am able to recognise a vegan from a distance of approximately four feet away. I recognised them from the awful body odour. Even if they try to camouflage the awful body odour by using cologne or perfumes.
The main point of the study that claims a few eggs a week is ok was focused ok cholesterol levels. TWO PROBLEMS: 1/ They compared cholesterol blood levels when eating eggs when not eating eggs, but the diet they used for eggless was also high-cholesterol. When it's already high, a few eggs don't make it worse. 2/What they considered healthy level was c 200, which is now considered a risk factor.
"Brian Clement, director of the Florida health spa that provided therapy to leukemia patient Makayla Sault before her death and another Ontario First Nations girl still battling the disease, has been ordered to stop practising medicine without a licence and fined for representing himself as a medical doctor."
Panel of quacks. Been down this rabbit hole "eating vegan" for months, became ill and weak. Eat a balanced diet. I'm aiming at the people in the comment section here. Always do some research on the people behind these panels.
Well,imnot scientist ,but,I think the problem is over consumption of food in last 60- 70 years due to rise of capitalism and all misguided dietary plans and recomendations forced in our throats.sorry it sounds conspiracy theory but,we all know it's true by now. Right?
Over consuming anything is dangerous. If u drink too much water u will die. It's just matter of how fast.
The key to health I think is,moderation in healthy (I mean less chemically tempered with)food.
People need to start asking what chemicals , vacancies/pesticides are used in the growing and processing of our food. I turned to Organic food because I felt the food was not safe to eat. GMO's, roundup and who knows what else they use.
alreadythen1 We are neither lions nor apes. We have supermarkets and don't need to rely on the meat from animals for survival like a lion does. Wouldn't you agree? Animals also kill and rape each other in the wild but that does not translate to how a civilized society should act.
I eat six eggs every morning with a cheese stick and a tall glass of almond milk. Remarkable gains in my cognitive sharpness and clarity ever since. No asthmatic symptoms. Feel great. Health markers are good.
Lol I haven't had that experience too much in the real world outside of gluten-free options, but I'm actually not that surprised... In this age where cultures are being broken down and religious belief is no longer informing our shared cultural template, people will tend to balkanize into groups just to scratch their tribal appetites (it's human nature, we can't escape that tendency- but we should be educated and aware of it)... Culinary ritual is a central pillar to every culture, so it's really just a tribal thing exacerbated by social media and the chaotic nature of our society. As long as they can reap what they sow and leave me out of it- I won't verbally demolish them with nutrition facts. Seriously, I've only seen people so idealogically hell- bent and PURITY OBSESSED in ultra-fundamentalist religious communities, vegan groups, alt-right, and radical Marxist groups- they all share the same ethos in the worst cases and get their own well being mixed up with absolute adherence to their kinda whacky and alienating ideas in order to add a layer of control and significance to their lives.
Concentrate is up to 80% purity and isolate is 80-100%. Problem is nitrogen spikes testing. Should be a survivalist or transition/support food taken in much less quantities than listed for absorbtion(try hammer nutritions multi decade study on absorption rates of triathletes). 2nd problem is generally you get a mix of random minerals, vitamins and micro nutrients with no balance for your anatomy. You get a inbalance of magnesium to calcium with long term use without dietary balance... to much protien for your kidney with dosages reccomended... you need fat because most the micro nutrients are fat soluable anyways so very low amounts into drink mixes is ideal for actual use.
They did not discuss anything.
Ever heard "Do not trust a quote because it's next to a important picture"
I dont even know them and making a bouncing ball of an egg is just as relevant to health as making fuel from plants.
This is what is wrong... Using bad exemple is the staple of the bad food industry and this video does the same.
The fact is, under confusion, human pick taste.
Wow Tree Climber, before I even seen your comment I too thought the panel looked 'ill' and weren't aging very well. Apart from the lady in red, the rest look late 50's - mid to late 60's, tired and run down. I'll stick to my 2 raw organic eggs a day along with my varied diet thank you very much.
The reason eggs are bad for you is because of the way chickens are raised and kept. you cannot expect a healthy egg from an unhealthy hen. buy eggs from local resources that you know take care of their animals and product. also different eggs from different animals have different make up. quail eggs have more hdl to ldl cholesterol as opposed to chicken egg which is mostly ldl. I bet if chicken were raised in a healthy active environment their eggs would be nutritious as opposed to crap. Don’t let people tell you what to think and do. To me these people are not the healthiest looking people. Do your own research and decide for yourself.
When I was an omnivore I ate 4 eggs, 6 strips of bacon, a handful of grated cheese over a half a Russet potato that had been pan fried in bacon grease every single morning. Because I'm on a strict budget that simple diet was, I thought the best way to fuel my machine. The result was I looked like the Pregnant Man from a profile view. I had hemorrhoids and a bowel movement (that I never looked forward to and would put it off til the last minute) every other day. That was five months ago. Now I am fifty lbs. lighter and I have an almost flat stomach on a strict whole food plant based diet. I don't miss the growth hormones in dairy meant for baby cows, meant to cause 700 lb. of growth in the 1st year of development.
Sometimes I think things would be so much simpler if we just ate grass and drank water. Because the plethora of information out there, pro or con, is so overwhelming, and no one likes to be overwhelmed. The animals are not overwhelmed, they eat what they are predisposed to eat, and don't ever change. We on the other hand are always changing, and out of alignment with the rest of nature...it's crazy.
I don’t drink milk and agree about how children with asthma should NOT drink dairy. Boys who are experiencing acne should Not drink milk and when they stop their acne goes away! I do eat two hard-boiled eggs daily and my triglycerides are really low with no cholesterol issues what so ever! The problem stems from an over consumption of carbohydrates, refined carbohydrate and sugar. These are the true destructive substances in the body. Lactic acidosis is the real problem and it stems from an over consumption of carbohydrates and sugar. Look up dr. Darren Schmidt
We only need 56G of Protein a day (that's optimum!), any more we intake is converted into Carbs because that is what our body prefers, and our brain runs on Carbs only. Some people can of course use more Protein, but it won't ever be that much higher.
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Oh and milk actually takes more calcium out of our body than it puts in, which is why the highest milk consuming countries have the highest rate of Osteoperosis. The reason for this is animal protein acidifies our blood to such a dangerous level that our body has to draw calcium from our bones to neutralize the PH in our blood, the calcium is then urinated out.
These are all pusses. I tried vegan diet for a year, despite following all do's and don'ts into dot, all I achieved is that I lost a lot of muscle and I was week as 13 year old girl. The day I started eating eggs again I felt like Popeye after spinach. I wonder how is this vegan bullshit still alive.
no it is not as long as you are eating enough calories you are getting enough protein. Our mothers breast milk only has 5% protein in it and this is when we are developing and so this is all we need to survive and maintain our own size. if we want to get bigger all we need to do is increase this to 6 to7%. So if you weigh 60Kg and do no exercise all you need to eat to maintain this size is about 1500 calories if you want to get bigger consume 2000 calories. I would suggest what happened to the 13 year old girl is he changed to a vegan diet which is naturally lower in calories and he didn't account for this and so because he was training his caloric intake was lower then what was needed to gain muscle hence he failed because he actually has no idea about diet.
I would say its because you are genetically a 13 year old girl and so you need steroids to make yourself feel like a man.. and you are wrong about our closest species, the Chimp only eats other chimps because it is a territorially display not because it loves it, the chimps diet is 98% plant based and it gets all of its protein from Plants. FYI our closest species is a Bonobo monkey and its diet is 99% plant based... Maybe if you stopped trying to fight your genetic weakness and focused on your education you wouldn't feel so inadequate.....
You know, it trips me out how these people act as if EVERYONE NEEDS or WANTS to lose weight. There are folks who are underweight who are given medical instructions to do the total opposite these folks are saying to do. We are told to eat massive amounts of dairy and lean meats along with our workouts to consistently gain at least a pound a week. I've done the vegetarian diet when trying to gain weight - cutting out all dairy and meats and increasing my intake of plant proteins etc. The amount I have to intake for weight gain on a consistent basis is unrealistic being that I also have a family to feed. Trying to eat "healthy" while gaining weight is like an oxymoron.
Just increase your consumption of legumes, nuts, & seeds. These foods are high in protein, fat, and calories and they're healthy foods. When I was trying to gain weight, I made a 1000 calories smoothie daily with just 4 ingredients (2 Bananas, peanut butter, soy milk, and flax seeds) and it worked.
You could also look at what these body building vegans on youtube are eating for a day to get more ideas
Diary is bad for you, but eggs are very good for you.. cholesterol: 3000 units (grams/miligrams) is made by your body. If you eat something With cholesterol the body will produce less. The #1 american's diet thing now says, in 2017, says that cholesterol is a thing of no concern..
But if you heat the eggs the cholestrol will be converted into oxidised cholesterol which is more bad.
Eggs increases post prandial cholesterol than any other food. You can do experiment with yourself.
webcomment cholesterol is not bad for you, as said b4, the body produces 3000 units by itself. They dont say how much transfats, sugar and grains they ate.. cholesterol is not bad for you. It is other factors that they leave behind..
People think we get diseases from what we eat. But our bodies don't work that way. We constantly are under attack from our environment. That's normal and our bodies know how to deal with that. However, when we do get chronic illnesses or cancer, it's because of nutricional deficiencies that block our ability to deal with ilnesses. So we get sick because of what we don't eat.
Tony Rendall I couldn't eat a lot of eggs because it gave me pimpels. Then I went on the ketogenic diet + eating lots more vegetables, including big salads every day and other raw vegetables and eggs are no problem anymore. Just shows that with food, the right combinations are important. If you have deficiencies in some nutrients, it can cause problems with other nutrients. It's not about one nutrient source being unhealthy, it's the combination of everything.
You know that breathing pure oxigen kills you within minutes. That doesn't mean you should stop breathing air that has oxigen in it.
It's funny. Humans forced them selves to eat grains since about 10.000 years. Before that, no grains. I wonder what they ate before bread. Just plants? Like most primates? Then why is our digestional track so different from theirs?
Tony Rendall I agree. Supplements aren't the way to be healthy, though they can occasionally be used to treat problems.
Over all, it's always best to eat unprocessed foods and to avoid sugar and high fructose corn sirope like the plague.
Tony Rendall Think about eskimos, how much plant based foods do they eat. There are other cultures that lived in areas of the world where they had very little access to plant based foods. But they eat the whole animal, including organs and bone marrow. They get a lot of their minerals and vitamins that way.
So to say it's not possible goes too far I think. And when available, I'm sure they ate carbs as well.
You may be eating as much meat as I eat carbs. 😃
Also, the issue wasn't if it's possible to live of meat and fat alone. That's like saying living of carbs alone.
Thank you for this conversation. It was fun and I think I learned a couple of new things here and there.
Tony Rendall Yes, I had already seen that video. It talks about a certain type of ketogenic diet, which is more commonly known as the Atkins diet. The guy in the video literally says "and a few vegetables on the side". And often when you see the side effects listed of the ketogenic diet, they refer to the low vegetable keto diet.
But I am not talking about low vegetable keto.
Like I mentioned before, every good diet includes lots of vegetables, including raw vegetables.
When you look at the stories of people who had bad experiences with vegan, they all did lots of grains, potatoes, etc. (So lots of carbs), the right amounts of plant fats, but very little vegetables. And ofcourse they were unhappy on the vegan diet.
A low vegetable vegan diet, or low vegetable keto diet, or low vegetable whatever other diet isn't going to work in the long run. These are diets with nutricional deficiencies. That's always a bad idea.
But when you do it right, the keto diet will work just fine, also in the long run. And there is no obligation to get protein from red meat. It can be from other protein sources as well.
That video has the same bias as you do. A total conviction to vegan. I don't have the conviction to the keto diet. I like it a lot, but I don't consider it the only diet that is good.
In my view, every diet that avoids deficiencies is fine. In the end our cells feed on molecules, and once a food has been broken down to it's base molecules, the cells can't tell the diference anyway.
I don't eat red meat every day. Probably about 3 or 4 times a week. Other days are chicken and some fish as well.
We just disagree on how dangerous meat really is. I don't disagree that there are things in meat that can be bad. I just think that also applies to just about everything else. Things like mercury, aluminum and other elements that are found in all soils end up in vegetables as well, even organic produce can't avoid these completely. And if you eat 3 pounds of vegetables a day, added with plant based carbs,... You get a lot more of those in your system than the average.
And that's ok. Our bodies are perfectly capable of removing these unhealthy elements from our bodies, especially if you eat enough vegetables. 😄
Just An observation here . Before GMO, Older Cubans ate rice and beans everyday and starchy vegetables leafy vegs, and Eggs, meat , grease drenched pork and milk everyday day, smoked cigars and drank coffee. Men Lived into their late 80’s and women 90’s. Once the American diet of Processed Foods and sugars stuck in it was doing hill.
The main reasons why dairy causes all kinds of health problems ........... (i) most cows go through the cruel process of factory farming where lifestock are fed GMO corn/corn/grains and other feed not natural to cows, pumped with antibiotics and growth hormones. A milk cow lives for 2 years and throughout its pathetic life is literally milked for all its worth in cramped conditions causing immense stress to the cow, leading it to produce high levels of toxins in the body which finds its way into the milk; (ii) the milk is then processed, going through high heat which kills off most of the enzymes needed to digest the milk; (iii) highly processed milk is then packed in cartons and plastic bottles that probably leak various chemicals into the milk. How can milk produced and distributed in such conditions not be toxic to humans?
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