Best diesel engine oil and additives for Duramax, Powertroke, or Cummins! How to get to 1 million miles out of your diesel engine
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I swear by Lucas products. Had a 4L60e that was slipping bad. City shop said I needed a new transmission. I dropped the fluid, changed the filter and added one bottle of Lucas Stop Slip and it hasn't slipped since.
Used to run Shell Rotella, now I run Chevron Delo. Shell changed their additives in their new spec products to work better with emissions controls and I can't seem to find the older spec anywhere. I'm under the impression that Chevron Delo is better for pre-emissions diesels.
I always run Lucas Mucus in both my 6.5L and 6.6L, both with over 500,000km and no issues (which I know pales in comparison to 1.8 million).
496k miles and change no idea on previous owners but I run shell rotella in my 97 12v and power service fuel additive. Never thought about oil additive because I guess I put all my faith in rotella. Time to take a look at Lucas now.
I been telling people this for years. I actually have saved a bunch of injectors by throwing a whole gallon of lucus fuel stabilizer and a few quarts of transmission fluid in the tank can think of 4 different trucks off hand. I know a guy that wouldn't listen to me and was running amzoil on his 2012 Dodge blew the motor at 20k miles. I never seen and motor so bad off the whole valve cover was full of black sludge. Was a combination of Amzoil and not deleting his EGR and Converters. thanks
The Company I used to work for had a 2007 (Classic Body Style) Crew Cab Long Bed 3500 Dually 4x4 with the 6.6 Duramax LBZ (Vin D) and 6-Speed Allison. It was bought new by the company, and has only used Delo Oil with Lucas Fuel and Oil Additive. I was used as a cargo transport truck and usually had a Gooseneck Flatbed behind it. It generally towed right at its max tow rating and a tad over, 15,000-17,000 lbs, and 23,500 lbs GCWR, and has been way over its max towing a few times at 20,000 lbs. It just hit 905,000 miles before I left the company 7 years ago. I am sure it has over 1 million miles on it now. They still have it and it is still going.
Now, it has never been rebuilt, but has been "Bullet Proofed" to prevent any issues down the road. It has had ARP Studs Throughout (Head and Mains, with Rod Bolts) Alligator Performance "Bulletproof LBZ Package" (Deviant PCV Re-Route Kit, Deviant EGR Blocker Plates, FASS 150 Titanium Lift Pump), Rear Self Adjusting Airbags, E-Rated Tires, and a basic tune for towing. Nothing crazy.
Thanks Rich I just bought a bottle of the Lucas oil attive for my Cummins 2'nd gen 1 ton..The shell rotella has always been in it since new.I bought it from the orginal owner at 145k..I dont believe its even broke in good yet..Lol.Thanks also for all the info..Im all the way here in North Carolina..Im close to Boone in the App Mtns..I got the truck on Halloween day of 2017..We had some -o degree days last winter and I knw thats nothing for you people in Can..But Im proud to say she started first turn ever morning...I since have added a new South Bend Clutch I got from Thurabread Diesels..Ive added to new batteries just because thats what you do.The truck had a heavy equipment warrinty that the original owner had bough for the truck when the factory was up..I paid a little more than I wanted..but I knw I have a good truck..I watched for any blow by None when I got it none now...So GOD Bless You and Your Family at Deboss Guarage,...Mark Wood.
I dont know so much about the lucas "magic solution" for oil that is supposed to make it better, heard it can help or hurt. But id never leave the gas station without dumping some fuel additive into my cummins.
The current Shell Rotella T6 oil is literally universal. It has API CK-4 for diesel engines, API SN for gasoline engines, and even JASO MA/MA-2 for motorcycles with wet clutches. I've run it in many different engines, from old VW 1.8Ts, which absolutely MURDER oil, to lawn mowers, power washers, and motorcycles, and I can honestly say that there's no need for me to buy anything else. I always have at least 4 liters of this stuff sitting around, ready to go. There's nothing like it, especially for the price!
Mobile one with Lucas Is what I run and my 2003 gmc envoy with the 4.2 inline 6. It has 506,000 miles on it and it still runs strong and pulls like hell. It's been in my family since 53,000 miles and ever since it got into my family it has never seen anything else but mobile one and just over the last 75,000 miles or so is when we started adding Lucas. I know it's not a diesel but 506,000 on a gas engine is absurd
your videos kick ass bro. I've been trying to get my boss to get a couple 5.9s for hauling gravel and dirt. I can't get them off the 7.3s which in my experience are good till about 500k miles to best then they turn to turds. I personally run a peterbilt with a Cummins and am unstoppable. I'm gonna show them ur vids and hopefully they'll be convinced
trythisiptv I know a guy that has heavy equipment that run rotella in all his equipment also runs it in his cars whitch are nice late model cars, he says no problem I got the oil in drums why not use it been doing it for years no problem.
I have on 2002 5.9 2wd auto trans - I bought it with 450,000 km - my friends and family thought I lost my mind. I don't drive a ton, but it now has 650 on it. Runs like a top! It hauls my 5th wheel and my boat and is my daily driver. LOVE my truck! I've only ever used Rotella - and now will be adding Lucas! My older brothers 5.9 had close to a million when it got in o a collision and wrecked. I will have this truck til the day I die!!
Very nice looks like I’ll start using the same. Everyone has there choice of oil it’s the additive that puts the icing on the cake. Lucas is good stuff and it didn’t break the bank. Also there are a few documented Duramax’s that have well over 1 million miles stock.
He could have run the Rotella and thrown the Lucas in the trash and his 5.9 would have still ran the same . A Series 60 12.7 ran 1.5 million miles with nothing but Delo 15W40. Upon tear down the thing was spotless inside with the crosshatch still visible in the liners. The Lucas oil additive is designed to separate a truck owner from his money. Even Cummins says NO oil additives.
The 5.9 Cummins is like the Series 60 Detroit. They were so well designed from the start that if you service them as they should be for your conditions they’ll run a long time on any oil that meets the specs required by the manufacturers. Delo, Rotella, Delvac, Valvoline Blue, And other’s meet those specs and will protect your engine longer than the truck body will last if you service intervals match your driving conditions. I know one wrecker driver with 800,000 miles on his 5.9 and it’s never had anything but NAPA 15W40(Valvoline) in it. He buys it once a year when NAPA puts it on sale for about $9 a gallon.
230k miles for my 130 Land Rover Defender TD5, a measly 2.5 TDI with 122 HP as standard, blanket off the EGR and that's it. Service every 5k miles. Want to hit 500k miles but only do 10k/yr so need to get road trippin'
I run shell rotella t6 5w-40 on my 2016 F-250 Powerstroke 6.7L. The last year of the steel body super duties! The only oil I've been running on it so far is the rotella t6 which I've heard good things about for diesel engines that take a lot of abuse. I have pulled a lot of heavy loads of logs so far but granted only have 30k on the engine so far so a very small sample size but the engine and transmission has been well taken care of so far! Bought the truck brand new and maintenance it myself. Fuel filter has already been replaced at 20k miles as well as new transmission fluid by accident but was pretty dirty at about 20k miles as well from all the heavy towing. I have not messed with the engine at all with regards to tuning it for power or show and plan on only leaving it stock and using OEM Motorcraft parts on the truck which for the most aren't that expensive and a lot of times cheaper!
I have a 1980s Pettibone with the famous 4 cylinder Cummins 4BT and have had good luck with it so far. Found a good deal and bought the machine off Craigslist. Luckily noticed it was running on low coolant before it was too late and the engine burned up! Also was leaking a lot of oil which apparently Cummins engines are known for but it always starts up and runs well. The hour meter needs to be replaced since it is not working so who knows how many hours it really has! Maybe 6-7k hours total. I have maintained it pretty well so far doing all the basics such as new fuel filter, oil and oil filter. I run Napa fleet 15-40 conventional oil on the Cummins since it's older and I don't use as much as the truck I will just change more frequently. Customer gave me original Carquest Wix made in USA filters for the Pettibone Cummins engine which is neat since they now are bought out by Advanced Auto.
Funny, I use Shell Rimula R4 which turns out to be the same as Rotella. Lomg steady kilometres from professional driving will help a lot too, stop start with hot and cold cycles will shorten engine life. Uncle had a courier business and with fortnightly oil changes racked up big kilometres.
I had 700,000 km on my 1993 Mazda B2300 I bought from my grandpa before I passed her on to another family member who promptly totalled it... only big jobs I had to do were rear suspension bushings and a clutch job. Other then that she was all maintenance.
BG 15w40 Shear Power HD Full Synthetic Oil with BG DOC Diesel Oil Conditioner. BG 244 in the Fuel Twice a Year with BG 248 at every fill up. Did that for the first 16 years or so then changed to Hot Shots Secret Stiction Eliminator with BG 15w40 Oil and Diesel Extreme every 6 months and Everyday Diesel Treatment EDT at every fill up. Seems to run better on the Hot Shots Secret. Truck is a 1996 with a 12 Valve Cummins.
I’m at 352,000 on my 97 7.3 powerstroke. It is completely original internally. I don’t have a chip just exhaust and a big truck air filter so it has all of 250hp.I do use the Lucas stabilizer in the cold season.
I bought a 74 Chevy C10 with a 454 and 103,000 miles on it. Previous owner said he used oil in the green jug but never said what brand it was.
Due to the age of the gaskets and the flat tappet cam I started asking for oil recommendations. Have a trucker friend who routinely gets a million+ miles out of an engine before having an in-frame done and he recommended Rotella 15-40. His last Cummins ISX had 1.4 million miles on it when it had an in-frame rebuild and the mechanic told him the rod and main bearings were good enough to be re-used. Of course they weren't reused but the mechanic was impressed with the condition of the engine. Seems a lot of hot rodders also use Rotella for big block gas motors so I switched.
The "green jug" oil the PO had been using didn't look dirty but now that I'm using Rotells I've increased the OCI because it gets dirty quick - like black in 500 miles quick. I figure the detergents are cleaning out 44 years of sludge so as long as it keeps turning black I'll keep changing it. I've done 3-4 oil changes with Rotella and the oil is now staying cleaner longer so I take as a good indication it's working.
P.S. My Dodge Ram was a 2001v10 5dpd with 4.10 gears. O used Lucas oil treatment in everything, engine, transfer case, transmission, and both axles. They can argue all they want but I know Lucas oil treatment works!!!!!
I had a Dodge ram V10 and I changed the oil and filter every 3000 miles and added Lucas oil treatment when I sold it it had over 250000 miles on it. It ran like new and never burned or leaked oil. I know it's not a diesel but I pulled a 26' trailer and it was a real beast. It could pull a house. Great truck's, Dodge Ram is the only truck for me!!!!!
A huge factor for the longevity of this Million mile engine is the operating regime. 10k in a week means very few cold starts. In the old days, Mercedes handed out badges for every 250k and most taxis with the famous 4 and 5 cyinder pre-chamber diesels had several of them stuck on the radiator grille. Those engines were not shut off for several days as several drivers would operate the same taxi owned by the dispatcher. The current Mercedes-Benz High Mileage champ is Gregorios Sachinidis, a Greek taxi driver who holds the known record of more than 2.8 million miles in his 1976 Mercedes-Benz 240D. I can guarantee that he did not use the current Lucas additive.
Rotella is premium stuff - no argument there. We need a comparison between two identical trucks, driven in a very similar way, one with Lucas the other one without to see what difference the additive makes.
Great channel, I watch your videos often. I use Opti-Lube XPD with Valvoline Cummins Premium Blue Diesel Engine Oil. I’m going to send a used sample to BlackStone soon for analysis. We’ll see what results I get.
Hey Rich, the newer rotella formula no longer has the api rating for gas engines. Would you still recommend running rotella in a old school gas engine even though it is specifically catered to diesel engines?
97 4.6l ford gasser. 480,000 miles currently sittin with a bad clutch slave. All original engine miles, no smoke, still gets good mileage, its been overheated by me 2x in last four years to the point itnwas pinging and stalled. No oil leaks, i use cheapest oil oreillys has when im doing an annual change. Truck gets 35k a year on the log book pulling trailers last 4 years ive owned it. I use the truck to pull single axle lawn service trailer usually loaded around 3.5k. City and highway miles. Did the 5 speed manual at home when i bought the truck 280,000 miles ago. True story.
Most people don’t need a diesel truck, not even a 3/4 ton. What they don’t realize is the same reason grandpa drove an overloaded 1/2 ton pickup on the farm. Everything on the 3/4 and 1 trucks are expensive as hell, and if you don’t make money with your truck, I mean serious cash, it’s a big waste of money owning one. As reliable as they are, try a $425 brake line or go the shitty Dorman route and new calipers with brackets, you still got $850 for parts in just the rear brake job. That’s not counting if anything goes wrong with the diesel, say you get some contaminated fuel, you better have a big credit card if you break down. The overhead on these trucks is why you may not want to use it as your daily driver. Reliable Yeap, and expensive! Let the man with the big hairy balls (aka boss man) ride around town in that big truck, he can afford it. For what it is the half ton pickup does a hell of a lot and it can be your daily driver. I’ve even seen an old Toyota loaded down with cross ties and a Nissan pulling a 10,000 lb trailer with a tractor on the back. Not saying you should do that, but these are more of an everyday truck.
You could buy the biggest baddest truck on the lot, but if you have no money left over to buy food and live, what good is it. A mobile mechanic driving a 4x4 diesel truck has to charge you 4 times as much as a mechanic who drives an old Dakota. Regulations caught up with hotshot trucking decades ago, it cost a fortune and the loads don’t pay that much. In fact it cost as much as a Freightliner but hauls a fraction of the weight. The house trailer hauler truck might have a million miles, but most sit all week in the yard waiting on a sucker to get financing on a mobile home. The rest of the time he’s either cleaning up or sitting at home not getting paid. The only one making money is the finance manger! Like a used car lot, it’s easy to sell a car or truck, but try selling an $8000 truck for $14,995 plus tax tag and title.
Rotella 15w40,one of the best oils on the market for heavy duty diesel engine applications.BUT,i believe regular oil changes are key to longevity.ALSO,oil filters are not created equally.FLEETGUARD makes some of the best commercial,industrial filters out there.The difference comes with length of pleating in the filter,and the anti drain construction on the filter for cold engine starts.Have you ever bought an oil filter and noticed its shorter than the OEM filter?Run em' hot,and regular changes,thats the key.
I run a small pipeline outfit. We run nothing but rotello 15-40. I’ve got a 1992 Cat el300 excavator with around 18k hours on it. The motors never been touched. No turbo, no injections, only smokes for 15 sec on a cold start. Oil changes every 250hrs. Cat filters only.
Not sure how get In touch via email. Would like to pick your brain on a 2015 ram 2500 5.7 hemi... is like to swap it to the 5.9 Cummins. Only problem I’m worried is about getting the body control module to function correctly. I’d like to keep the gauges, touch screen radio and all the other features it has. Any info you have would be sweet
After watching that oil additive video I would like to say I bought 94 Dodge 2500 with a Cummins in 95 it had 22000 miles on it I ran shell for the first probably about a hundred and ten thousand miles ended up getting a knock kind of a bad tick in the engine really I switch to that Valvoline blue The tick in the engine disappeared never came back needless to say I'm done with shell
I absolutely love the channel, you’re a fellow SWO neighbor and a lover of mechanical diesels, so naturally I love the channel!!!
Have you ever worked on any of the old CDM spec Toyota Land Cruisers, they are 3rd works reliable have been imported by the boat load in several models for mining and were sold in Canada until 86 and that model still to this day are made , every body panel and most interior bits even fit until a couple year ago.
I spent a couple years over seas and cruisers are the rest of the worlds work horses. They are Cummins reliable! Especially the hino motors all built on a one ton truck chassis and power train. They are the truck that guys like you and I have wanted to buy and think no one has ever built them. Truth is they have sold them in massive numbers and they are the longest running model in history.
Would make an amazing channel project, You can buy mine trucks cheap but they are usually pretty trashed when the mines are done with them. Basically you can get pickups, short wheel base, medium and troopy as well as other variants.
Anyway here we go!
I have had two w124 mercs with 3 litre diesels (om603). Both of them had over 700 000km in the clock when i sold them. I've seen those engines go over million miles. Nowdays i'm rocking in vw golf 1.9 TDI, it has only 500k on the clock, but it engreases 80k per year.
In my old Peugeot diesel I just bought what ever good quality synthetic was on offer in either a 10w40 or 5w40 and used that,
My personal opinion is that you cant go wrong with any of the well established synthetic oils,
I'd say just warm up your engine properly and change your oil often, and you'll have many many miles out of it
Before anyone spends their money on Lucas Oil Stabilizer they should look at an oil analysis of the product. There's nothing in the bottle except un-additized bright stock. All that Lucas Oil Stabilizer does is dilute the additive package and increase the viscosity. Most engines don't need an SAE40 oil so a viscosity increase is not needed or wanted. Plenty of HD diesel engines are now specifying 10W-30 and oil analysis shows that it works.
Optilube XL is the fuel additive I use. It increases lubricity the most of any additive. That and Archoil 9100 in the oil (Delo Full synthetic), and I get 24 mpg out of my 7.3 IDI 1990 F250 XLT Lariat 4x4
Shell Rotella and a bottle of Lucas engine break-in juice every oil change and my 5.3 Tahoe is rolling onto 500,000kms in Alberta. And she works let me tell Ya she works. Lol never even considered anything but for my mills
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