The educational system in the U.S. has been far behind the leading pack for a long time. Here are three reasons why.
What do you think the solution is? Allocating more of our tax dollars to education? Paying and supporting our teachers more? Changing the way our classrooms are structured? Write what you think below.
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One of the major problems with the American Educational System is that schools do not teach students how to think critically. Only how to do this and that mindlessly like a robot. You don't have this problem with Asian countries which rank the highest in the world in terms of education.
On tests and exams, the teacher does not teach her students in a way to retain what they learned in class and keep it in their longtime memory for the future. Nowdays teachers are teaching students how to retain that knowledge for the short-term and regurgitate that knowledge on a test and they forget about it. Part of the problem comes from students not wanting to learn about subjects they don't give a shit about that probably won't help them in life, but are forced to learn it anyway.
Educating and inspiring the parents so that families can provide adequate support and positive involvement in their child’s education. Students are in school for only 180 days a year which is not even half a year and of those 180 days, only about six hours are spent in school. The influence of the family is huge and we need to tap into that. Schools should be more of a community center with the primary objectives that all generations learn to respect the dignity of each person and that bonds of trust become strong by teachers, parents and students working closely together.
Here is what needs to happen:
Kindergarten to 6th grade is spent on building creativity and curiosity
By the time you are in 7th grade, you should have a good understanding of what you want to become.
7th to 12th grade should be spent on your interests. This could reduce time in college or even abolish college
Another thing I find broken about society as a whole is your grades mean everything. I am a 16 year old with an 83 gpa and I can’t get a car because the insurance company believes people with an 85 gpa and above are more responsible. So they take advantage of “stupid people” by charging more for insurance and give the “smart people” a huge discount. That’s so ridiculous.
In the Netherlands, people go to different high schools, based on their intelligence. Some schools only accept students with a high testresult on a test in elementary school. This way, the smart and the less smart people get seperated, and they can learn at the level that fits for them. This way smart kids are stimulated to outperform people in their school, instead of them outperforming almost everybody in an American school.
This system has many benifits, although it might be harder to implement in the US, because of distance/travelling
Also, people won't want tax money thrown at a failed system.
Conservatives for decades have choked education for the sole purpose of saying "we have to privatize education". Thing is even just doubling the budget wouldn't be enough when school administrators take the bulk of the money. Administrators and Superintendents.
Look at how many of them have gold watches and BMWs.
Free Education could end illegal migrant problem. 100% free on line education offered to everyone all over the world. 100% Politic free edu call it Net3R's after the on line is done you go in and take a test Bada'Boom Bada'Bing you got a certificate. No more Brick and mortar schools, teacher pensions, and no more school shootings. Everyone wins, taxes are no longer needed and we go back to being a free country!
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Bullshit America isn't leading in technological progress- several countries in Asian like Japan, China, South Korea, are ahead of America. The only technological field the United States is ahead in is space travel and astronomy, but that's because the US has a larger budget for it.
I'm not from the US, but I do think this will apply there just as much as where I'm from (the Netherlands). I think that the biggest problem in education is how grading is done. What I mean is that it's a problem that you need a certain level of skill to pass a grade. The reason is that a school environment is supposed to be a learning environment.The main difference between a learning environment and something like a work environment is the effect of failure. In a work environment failure will result in whatever you're trying to achieve to fail. This will ultimately result in either bankruptcy or you being fired. However in a learning environment failure is a good thing. You're supposed to fail in school, so you don't have to fail in the workplace.
However, that never happens. You just get a bunch of theory shoved in your brain, and you fail if you can't understand that theory. The problem lies in the skill required to learn something. You're supposed to plan, have a rhythm, and be organized. If you haven't learned how to do something correctly you risk failing the year, or high school in general.
I think the solution requires rethinking the function of schools, and I don't think the solution could be applied in the near future. But I think school should shift from focussing on theory and matter to aiding students in learning the matter. I'm not saying school isn't helping, it's just that they are helping you learn the theory because learning the theory is the final goal. I don't think the theory should be the final goal, but learning how to learn the theory should be.
So how could this look in practice? One of the first things every student should learn is why they should improve themselves, and learn new things. Self-improvement is at the core of success in my opinion. Self-improvement acts as an alternative motive to learn new theory, instead of having the theory itself be the motive. This means you can't fail a year because you didn't understand the theory. I think this works if you truly want to improve, because of how stress works. From experience, I can tell that if you try to do something too much it will result in stress. Stress is the result of working too hard. If you have a certain level of knowledge you need to have at the end of the year it can easily result in you putting too much effort in. The effort will directly result in stress, which will impact your productivity over longer time spans. I can tell from experience that my productivity almost doubled when I stopped doing something when it became too stressful, rather than pushing myself through it. Grading based on knowledge is the perfect motive to work too hard, which is why I think it should be replaced by an internal desire to improve.
From this school should focus on teaching skills. Theory should, ideally, be a public resource. Students should learn theory because they want to, rather than being forced to.
I don't have the full solution, but I do think we should work towards a system like the one I proposed here. I finished the Dutch equivalent of high school, but I felt horrible right until the end. I was so focused on finishing school that I worked for 1 and a half years under constant stress. The problem was that I was forced to learn high amounts of theory, while I didn't even have the skills necessary to learn that much in such a short time. I never got the time and knowledge I needed to learn how to work correctly. I just learned why I should improve myself 1 and a half years before getting my diploma. Stress is not only a big problem in education but also a big problem in the workplace. Burnout becomes more common every year, and it's all due to people not understanding how to work without stressing. And this all starts by giving high requirements to students who don't even understand why they should learning it in the first place.
Thought Monkey But the ultimate question becomes how to apply this practically without being a waste of time on a nationwide scale. It's hard to find a balance between teaching kids how to learn so that they can learn anything and believe in themselves adequately to make mistakes yet try again until they find solutions when it typically can come off as subjective teaching plans and ineffective at its purpose due to being corny. I know in my psychology class we'd focus on some aspects of that every few classes and there'd be a sizable minority that found it useless and boring and would become disruptive until they were challenged with something more objective like vocab lessons or a reading assignment. It's finding that practical application
I agree that grading based on an arbitrary skill like Algebra is not the intention of true education. If schools focused on teaching students how to be happy, proactive, and compassionate along with those technical skills, I think we'd all be better off.
Jonathan B But if teachers are unhappy with their wages, it is a contributing factor, if schools have rat infestations it’s a problem (don’t tell me that kids aren’t allowed to go to school if there are rats because my at my school it’s not rare to find a dead rat in your locker especially in the winter time), if kids don’t have the correct materials it’s a problem, throwing money doesn’t help, but we have to spend money on the school system otherwise you get unhappy teachers, in 100 degree rooms, with kids that don’t have notebooks
Philosophy and critical thinking should be the major focus of education. Mere information (history, science, civics, etc.) should be taught less and encouraged to the students to learn on their own time.
The problem isn’t the educational system. It’s the anti-intellectual and brain-dead culture. Most of the smartest people in history and today did their formative learning on their own time. But almost no one goes to the library in their free time anymore or reads intellectually important works, like classical literature or philosophy. For most of human history, this was the benchmark of being “well-educated.” Sure STEM is nice, but the humanities are the true source of critical thinking and, more importantly, applying critical thought to one’s own life and community.
Dominique Calvillo Lol what do you think is the percentage of people who go on khan academy to pursue individual interests outside of what’s required for school? What percentage of people use audible to listen to intellectually demanding books? Very low. The problem is definitely the will to learn. If people had the will to actually learn and educate themselves, “too many choices” wouldn’t be a problem. It’s not that hard to see what people should learn. Bottom line is critical thinking. That’s philosophy. If you don’t have a solid ground in philosophy, history, STEM, finance, etc. are all equally useless because you won’t know how to use them to improve your life. Specifically, the best case scenario is for people to learn political philosophy and moral philosophy. I think this is pretty self-evident for the betterment of society. Most overworked and underpaid people still spend their free time watching tv and reading celebrity gossip. That’s a fact.
Michael Wu what do you think these young people do, just invest billions in private organizations like khanacademy to learn how to cook macaroni? Many studies show people are still intellectually being engaged by rather than books by audio and video formats like YouTube and audible. The problem def isn't the will to learn but possibly too many choices we live in the Information Age for a reason but studies show too many choices lead to no choices and the population is very divided on what's important to learn is it history to not repart our mistakes or math the universal language of science or is it financial literacy to raise a economically smart populous or literature and critical thinking? Hard for overworked and underpaid people who are bogged down from bureaucracy beating out there passion to properly teach all of those and more topics especially a lot of useless ones designed to raise factory workers while those being taught are being challenged in an ineffective standardized fashion to their limits with limited time to be kids, recess times get cut but have no conclusive rise in more successful students.
zombiechaddy but that's the average it drastically varies per state and even down to lower levels so that # can be deceiving unless narrowed down to at least a district level which many get cut in large areas of California
Thought Monkey - thanks for reply let me put a finer point on this: Nationwide, inflation-adjusted, per-pupil education spending has increased by about 140 percent in the last 40 years, and the number of teachers per pupil has increased by over 70 percent https://www.cato.org/blog/president-call-big-new-ed-spendingheres-look-how-thats-worked-past
Based on that statistic you gave and assuming it doesn't take inflation into consideration (no source?), per pupil spending may have doubled in dollar amount but over the past 30 years $1 has now become over $3 based on inflation. Meaning that it would have had to triple to just maintain.
we have the wrong people creating curriculums , we have the wrong people putting the half truths in our books , granted I never got a class on real world shit ( credit, loans, stocks , money management ) the environment fucking sucks , everything sucks honestly
It is completely out dated your right, but you didn’t really go into it. The school system was created to make factory workers, not engineers. I like the idea of having it based more around science and hands on things, then again I like science and learn best hands on, so that probably influences that. I think that because we start at such a young age, and I mean pushing a lot of basic information all at once, it doesn’t really help. We probably shouldn’t start at 5, we are just kids we like to play instead of sitting down for an hour doing homework. We also need to remember that people think differently, and we all learn differently, some people do really well when it comes to traditional schooling, but other people who are failing would be way better if it were more hands on. Obviously we couldn’t just switch it right away because I know my generation wouldn’t look at that and say “oh hey I can do stuff I like now” it would be more like “well screw you I can’t do whatever I want” so yeah
I wish this video came out earlier before I finished my English research paper on the flaws of this system, you discussd quite a few things that I would have wanted to include, like the taxes and funding parts (I would like the sources, too).
My father teaches at a high school a few miles away, and I listen to his and his friends' complaints many times when he drives me around town, and I hear a lot about some of the decisions the current faculty makes that negatively affect the school as a whole, such as the new teachers' issues as well as tenured teachers like my father who recently do not receive the treatment their dedicated profession needs to accommodate themselves and students.
By the way, what solutions do you happen to have in mind? So far, my father and I agree on discarding the plethora of end of course exams, and I agree on taking action on the privatisation of the educational system (you should discuss that sometime), because I know for a fact that sometimes teachers will cheat on exams as a part of this meta in public education about profit being the purpose for education instead of teaching the future.
I think we should focus on soft skills like compassion, proactivity, and happiness, alongside hard skills like STEM. But this happens at the top. I think policy reform is the only way to effectively create change. This means educating the masses about the issue and getting them to vote for people who will push for policy change.
Gonedridge So are you saying we should make schools private, because that doesn’t sound like a great idea. That would mean people would have to pay a lot of money for regular education that everyone gets. I’m thankful to live in a household where I can go to school and everything is okay economically, but I have many friends that couldn’t come to school if they had to pay for it, even if it was a small amount
Honestly I think education is the most important thing for Americans, especially important subjects like finance, cooking, and stuff for ensuring people can have great skills to help their lives. I've always had a problem with school. I didn't like it, they never helped me when I was struggling. I really wanted to do my own thing because I was inspired by (and still am) Leonardo Da Vinci to be a polymath and self taught. Finland has a very interesting way of teaching kids, and every kid is different and needs to be taught differently. Plus, we have a cultural problem of not incorporating fun into learning. Getting a medical degree shouldn't just be work, it should be fun work as fun will help with the learning process. I think incorporating fun and work together is very important, especially at a young age as it will get people to tie fun and work, therefore feel more rewarding. I don't know, but I really think education and higher education is important for everyone and should be the foundation for helping with the many domestic problems in the US. That's how I see it and will always strive for in my life.
I don't know if adding the "fun" element to a career such as medicine would be wise. Especially when a career like medicine is about saving lives which is something very serious. There is always a limit to everything.
Of course illegal immigration has an impact on the school systems. The state of California itself spends below the average person student compared to other states. Proposition 30 increased funding for schools in California through taxes, which was a few years ago. Only 14% of school funding comes from federal funds while the rest comes from the state.
California is 2nd behind Nevada as far as illegal immigration. Many of the children are born here, but their parents aren't. They tried fixing the schools through 'No Child Left Behind,' but that program has failed. They made some revisions to it in 2015 and the schools aren't improving.
As for teachers, $36k average person year (I didn't look up your stat, but I'll use it), doesn't take into account that it's not per year, it's per school year as teacher's are not working when school isn't in session. It also doesn't consider the health, retirement, and other benefits teachers get for working for the government.
Also, schooling (University) is expensive, but schooling hasn't always been this expensive. Even when schooling wasn't so expensive not that long ago, students weren't doing as well then either. I think the cost of college is a separate issue.
There are a lot of different issues that may help explain why kids aren't doing well in school, but I don't think money is the main problem. You can't continue to throw money at a problem without knowing why the problem is happening. You can't figure out why a problem is happening when the problem is made up of individuals but treated as a collective issue.
You have to also place a lot of the blame on parents as to why kids aren't doing well on an individual level. Kids from divorced homes, or where the dad isn't around at all, do worse. Kids, mostly all boys, who are too hyper are given psychiatric drugs and we don't even know how those drugs are messing up the kid's still growing brain. Kids aren't social with one another anymore, which isn't good for them.
As soon as a kid is old enough, they're not focused on school, they're focused on electronics. Not all, of course, but many; and some things overlap while others don't. There's a lot of other things that could be a problem that overlap too that's not about money.
We're treating it as a top-down issue instead of bottom-up issue. Why?
Thank you for your interesting insight like I said, I am a foreigner so I cannot judge that well but just offer a different perspective. I am not *that* well educated on the American school system but are you later split into different preferences or are you able to choose different topics? I am able to vote for one "Profil" which has one certain subject like Music, Languages, Biology, Politics or Chemics (those are the ones in my year). Every Profil is one class. You have more lessons in those subjects and some other classes work together with the Profile subject. For example I am in the Music Profil and Drama and History work together with Music. That way we are able to specialize a little better.
I hope that made sense and you understood what I meant but yeah your school system in the US sounds very difficult
Ezra Yeah. But who needs empathy, intelligence, or an ability to contribute to your society? You are weak! Toughen up! I got through school fine! If it’s good enough for me, is good enough for you! Kids today aren’t tough!
As far as I’m concerned, i don’t care about toughness. If you can’t handle something, you are weak. Well, I’d like to see you sit down for hours and research one topic, and enjoy it! We all have our strengths, and currently, school just doesn’t work for some people. The only reason I’m still in school is because I want to get a good job and do research in sociology or political science. Most jobs want a degree in the thing it’s in, which is fair enough. But most colleges only take students which successfully went through the production line that is the school system, which unfortunately is the only metric available for them to judge us by.
Dat Fishe Boi That's so true, we implement so many rules and expectations on children and we're somehow baffled when they grow up to be dysfunctional adults. Because the mantra of the world is SCREW CHILDREN. It's like how can we expect to get any empathy or growth from the child when no one cares about what the child thinks?
Also, thought I should put this in a different comment. Many schools and school districts here have stopped trying to care for the students and only wish to make more money. My local school district gradually shut down all of the local charter schools until literally only one was left, because they got less money from students in charter schools. And they are a relatively prestigious school. And many schools vehemently resist making any special considerations for special needs kids such as myself, who need special consideration to even make it through school without straight-up giving up and melting down. Fortunately, I went to a good school, so the people there were happy to create a 504 plan for me, which is basically a legal thing that allows for special accommodations to be made for me to stay with me whatever school I went to. My mom, however, is a social worker, and works with children, and she tried to get a special needs child under her care one of these plans. However, the school refused to do anything, and she had to take almost every legal action she could, despite the fact that the poor kid could barely make it through the day. Schools don’t care about the kids, and are incentivized to make more money, not to actually help the kids.
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