Public schools are increasingly divided by race and class. John Oliver discusses the troubling trend towards school resegregation.
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15:40 WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THAT KID'S MOTHER?!!! That kid made a stupid, ignorant remark about how he wanted to do his report, and instead of shutting it down and using that moment to teach her kid about what is and is not appropriate, she let him GO TO SCHOOL IN BLACKFACE. This kid who sounds like he's what, 7? Of course he didn't know any better, but the mother absolutely did. I don't care how ignorant she claims to be. I thought the mother of the little girl from my first comment was doing a shitty job if raising her kid to be a decent human being (And yes, if you are a racist I do not consider you a decent human being.) But this little kid's mother just opened him up to a world of self-hate later in life, and a world of ridicule for something that she should never have allowed past the verbal idea stage. She totally could have told her son why his idea was harmful. Instead she helped him paint his face and sent him off to school. Fuck. This. Shit.
Do you know of any white colleges????? Thats a big fat NO. How many only black colleges do you know of????? Thats right. These people are segregating themselves. In Roanoke Virginia, they are having to RAP the English classes to the children to get them to set still and behave in 10'th grade no less. What about the children that surpassed nursery rhymes by the age of 3? Until blacks can at least pretend to be the same as whites we should be segregated. Enough said.
In my country , we segregate gypsies on the same things. They are more violent , 97.2% of them (According to research from the Ministry of Education , National Statistical Institute and Ministry of Internal Affairs) don`t learn anything , they cheat on test results , do drugs , tend to think that their parents will fix their bad grade by beating up the teacher and etc. This is all bullshit. We tried every way to integrate them so we can be an "Equal Opportunity" provider and be non-racist. But every attempt of ours just gives them a new way to steal money from the government so they could live without working. They give birth at ages , starting from 13-14 years old , and by the time they get 40 , they are great-grandmothers. Not because they really love kids , but because the government pays you money for every child untill it gets legal of age (Our laws point 18 years as an adult age). And me , seeing this , trying my best to have good grades and be a productive member of society by being honest to the state , makes me angry and yes , makes me hate them and want them separated.
Top ten school isn't good enough. If you get your kids in the rich schools, they're set for life, regardless of their academics. George Bush was a C student, and became POTUS. It's all about who you know.
Recent high school graduate here, and while I'd like to say I was taught and exposed to all the nuance of racial diversity that a child should be, I would be lying.
15:00 I sympathize for this boy because it doesn't feel like something that would have been entirely out of place in my second grade class. In fact, it actually reminds me a lot of something I did in the same grade when we were corresponding with our sister school in Kenya, and it was so teeth-clenchingly cringey that I'd rather not describe it here.
Solving racism is just as pointless as the war on drugs. It will always remain and nothing can be done to fully solve it.
Cultures don't combine they will clash no matter what and same goes for races. There will always be things that clash, maybe not per person but mostly in majority it will regarding this multicultural bullshit.
a couple of points
a) I think the little kid wanting to black up was brilliant, you can tell that he was interested in being authentic
b) This is an argument for getting rid of public schools all together and going giving parents the money to spend on their children's education. You're never going to please everyone within a purely public system.
Arguably the way to try and get around this is to try and desegregate communities. Due to systemic racism in the past communities have stated rather segregated, with white communities being richer than black communities, and therefore meaning that white schools are richer than black schools. If communities were desegregated, then we wouldn't need to create bus routes that go to different communities. How we'd desegregate communities, i dunno, but it would be helpful
Americans are afraid of being treated like each other, it seems. For a country that screams so loudly about ethnicity and nationality, you sure are segregated AF compared to other western countries. At what point it will even out, we might never know.
I live in the racially diverse city of Las Vegas and have found that the cancer of low life criminal scumbags that pray on the racially diverse working class people of the city is very racially diverse as well. Clark county schools are underfunded and overcrowded for all students and provide a poor experience regardless of race or social class so if you can`t afford a private school your children will probably drop out and become criminal thugs that steal old people's social security checks to fund their meth, opioid and gambling addictions. They will probably end up in jail if the corrupt police don't shoot them for missing their extortion payments because they smoked up all the profits from the drug dealing to toddlers program. And you thought Las Vegas was a great place to raise a family.
I was never into PTA and loathed parent/teacher conferences because the teachers were so ignorant. One time I saved all notes, notices, etc. which all had spelling and grammar errors and after listening to the teacher talk about my child without comment I asked if I could share with her. Then I pulled out the materials I had on which I had marked all the errors in red and went over each and asked how she could justify trying to teach and presuming to judge children when she was obviously so deficient. The upside was I received far fewer written materials and never got scheduled for a parent/teacher conference for the rest of the year. I was vaguely aware that the school was integrated cause when I picked up my children I saw minority children running around also. When my children grew old enough for sleep overs they would ask permission to have whoever to spend the night and if we had no plans I'd say sure. Sometimes I knew the friend; sometimes not. If I hadn't met the friend I didn't know the friend's ethnic background until they walked through the door. In our family that was never a consideration. It wasn't important.
My school did that school swap thing (I was the better school). The students were not like the one they showed in this video... They sent over about 25 students, that would go around as a gang and be disruptive and try to steal things. We'd only had one security guard before, for 2500 students. They had to temporarily hire 14 more. We started having students robbed in the cafeteria, and being threatened with knives. After a couple of weeks so many parents complained about the crime in the school that they sent the inner city students back. It was crime, had nothing to do with race.
It isn’t that hard. One should go to the public school nearest to their home or the parent can opt to either pay for a private school or home school. Bussing was a nightmare. Basically destroyed my community in the 1970’s and even now in 2019, blacks are busses to my formally almost all white high school which quickly turned it into a black school.
Blacks do not perform at the same scholastic or intelligence level as whites or asians. Plain and simple. Blacks have been statistically shown to be more prone to violence and have lower IQs. Whites and Asians do not want to subject their children to this. You live in the inner city, change the dynamic of the inner city. Don’t shit on what you have and demand to take what we got. Seriously.
I'd rather have segregation, than a bunch of white imbeciles boasting about high SAT scores, popping adderall, failing classes, all while boasting about how IQ predicts everything in life and is genetic.
Ehh....its a bit of a tricky subject though, because a lot of the time it really does have to do with where people live. Where I went to school there were very few Black people. Though we did have a lot of whites, there was also a good amount of Asian Americans, many of Indian descent, and a smattering of bilingual students from many different countries. But about 40 minutes away is the city, which has schools with a large portion of black students. Because, where I live, there aren't many black people that choose to live out of the city. I've talked with many of the students from those schools during sporting events and most of them say they can't imagine not living in the city. Personally, I'd never set foot in the city unless I had to. To me, it's a morbidly toxic environment, but to many others it's the greatest place to live. So, really the only solution is to either export families to specific districts they don't want to live in, or to shuttle students an hour and twenty minutes every day to get to a city school.
Wait a minute... Was around 2:40 supposed to be the richer school in the suburbs inner city kids went to once in a while? I ask because I live in the UK and went to a school in inner London and that set up was standard. My school was exactly the same in terms of demographics to the inner city schools in the US but was set up like the one in the suburbs.
EDIT: What is that parent on? So your daughter didn't get into your first choice for her she still got into one of the top 10. I didn't go to my parents first choice of primary school or secondary school (in fact my secondary school was notoriously known for being the site of a murder less then 30 years before I went there) and I still managed to go to one of the best universities in the UK based on my academic performance. Yes, the school your child goes to can increase or decrease their chances at getting things in the future but only if you let it - a child who goes to the best school in the country but doesn't put any effort in isn't going to achieve better then a child in an average school who puts in 110% effort.
I grew up in South and we always thought people in the North were more racist than us (in our town at least) because they didn’t have many African Americans there (that’s what we thought) whereas we all got along together at my school 1/3 African American 2/3 Caucasian. There were not many other ethnicities there in those days. This was in the 80s and early 90s.
I just don’t understand ... I WANT my kids to interact with any/every race and they have . I chose a school that was private and had a smaller class size so they could learn better one on one , but there is still diversity in their class, so NY is NOT all the same . And I’m more upstate then they really classify as “upstate”
The test at 14:24 was beyond stupid and proves nothing
By saying "show me the good child", the adult giving the test is *prompting the kid to give an answer*, when in reality it is impossible to tell something like that just by looking at them. Reinforcing the idea that you can understand someone's character by looking at someone is actually harmful.
Racial bias is a real problem, but this was an idiotic way of probing for it.
Wow this is one where I say john Oliver your totally right and that's why we should privatise schools. He is absolutely right parents are responsible for their child's education and the federal and state district laws force poor kids into poor schools and mix them in with the kids who dont care for education and ruin it for their classmates be they the drug dealers, gang members or juvenile delinquents destined to become career criminals. The public school system is truly a chain that snaps at the weakest link. So I agree John, privatise the schools and give parents the power!
Really? Someone's rights are violated and the response is "he's being selfish"? Why, because he's not black? I strongly support equality, but it'll never be equal if you have to trample someone's rights trying to get there. Black Americans need reparations, but it needs to go into their communities in the form of medicine, education, transportation, and occupation. The worst racism that black Americans face is governmental neglect of there even being a problem. One of the stupidest arguments that bigots make is that black people aren't slaves anymore so any problems they have are their own faults; jyst because slavery was abolished doesn't mean that black Americans were given the same opportunities for success.
Swinging the pendulum back doesn't fix the problem it just shifts it in another direction; denying a white applicant to a school because of race only results in Bakke vs UCR case that essentially puts everything back at square one.
He's right, in my school in VA we only had two or three black kids. Truth be told I never talked with them much, as one was into year book committee and the other into sports. I was a bookworm and band friend kid. But in the short conversations I had with them, they seemed nice enough.
They ended up having to move across state, never really knew why.
After that, I don't ever remember my school being anything but white. Even the teachers.
And don't get me started on the school smack directly in the middle of the small town/city we had nearby, majority of them were of the 'upper' class here. As to live in that town you had to pay alot as it was a historical site.
I live in Charlotte NC and went to a magnet school, it was about 4/10 white 3/10 black 2/10 Hispanic and 1/10 other. So now it is pretty racial integrated. But I now go to a school which is 80% white soooo
There are a lot of African Americans who think segregation is good, I don't know why. They think black kids do academically worse with white teachers and peers and they call for more all black schools. These calls have gotten louder in recent years and white liberals who are overcome with guilt stay quiet about it. BTW that kid in blackface and his mom were trying to be good, give them a break.
We rarely if ever had segregation in our schools. They have always been a safe space where black, white, Asian & Polynesian kids can group together and pick on the poor kid wearing hand-me-down clothes and packing a bag lunch.
In regards to Boston busing, one thing that happened is that the racist families moved further out to the suburbs. I grew up with Irish and Italian descendants who felt no shame about dropping the N-word and making horrific, racist statements.
Not nocking on the reality of this episode. However at 14:29 there is definitive bias in how the question was asked. Instead of a closed ended question who is good and which is bad, a more open ended question...such as are there any children here you would or would not want to play with...would get the same answers and have less biased results.
Liberals- "twump b takin kidz!!"
Me- "amercans have their kids taken away too when they endanger their kids lives"
Liberals- "when did the illegals endanger their kids??"
Me- "when they crossed the raging Rio grande on a waterbottle raft"
The problem with John Oliver (and most people who talk about politics) isn't that he's wrong, but he chooses to bate and trigger people's emotions.
Segregation is an issue, that doesn't mean that people ate racist. As John Oliver once said, correlation doesn't mean causation.
Don't get me wrong, the US has a pretty racist past, but it's not fair to use that against anyone living today. We are so divided because we keep blaming each other. That's not solving anything.
Let's identify these problems and work together to solve them like a real country.
Here's a hint too, if you keep calling white people racist, they're less likely to want to help you. If you keep treating minorities as second class citizens, they're less likely to help you. We all need each other.
and that gives white racists arguments about superiority of " white race" , but let's be honest ... only reason why black people or "minorities" have this issue is this system .. that barriers them from better education and opportunities , choices they can make or even paths they can choose ... "yea black people are better in sports but not very good in other stuff" ... ? .... i will say shut up ... and let me educated you .... society creates personality , society builds humanity , : they think " Whites" are better , and superior ... but it's not true and will never be ... we are different but , still one race ... only big difference between Europeans and Africans ( in some cases) is genes of Neanderthals , and if we are talking about African Americans that not the case as mostly they are " mixed" ... development of intellect for every ethnic group , nationality , country , continent , for every people of this planet depends on environment in basis level , society and information they can absorb from this sources ... of course genetics have value in development ... but active and passive elements are imbalanced , development individual depends on environment by 75-90% , , the potential of Europeans are not higher than Africans , in fact by some studies i can say that some African people ( ethnic groups) have pretty interesting and unique intellect ( thinking process is faster , in terms of decision making , and mainly system and dimensional orientation) , we can meet same pattern in Asia , where actually we have more than 5 different regions with different results ... Europeans ( only few ethnic group) have only few dominant " assets " differences ... and it's hard to explain but ... if you are " white " you are not different Europe isn't even continent , it's a region of Eurasia ... ethical groups of Europe were successfully separated and had pretty nice time developing strength and ego for more than 3000 years ... but it resulted into this mess of miss understanding and ignorance ... how many mistakes our race made during all of this time spent in unnecessary conflicts .... and this is another big unsolved problems we have in this stupid path ... it's easy to harm and cause the degradation , but to help it regenerate and evolve ... it does require more resources than to just enslave and humiliate for centuries ... them being free but taught
they are weak and silly , " not equal " ... only reason why Africa as continent was and is in this state is human history and cultural development ... if we forget that Africa was home for first great empires and "big" cultures and essentially is our mother land than we can say path or the life style of the native people was pretty primitive ... after big cultural boom in Asia and Europe resulted from multicultural divisions of technologies life style religions and harmonic acceleration of development ( environment , climate , isolation or even fusion of cultures ) ... and once they became dominant they never lose the momentum ... nature of human race is as simple as the solution of this task .. it could be any other region ... with least statistical chance for Africa sadly ( cause of environment) but it was Europe .. and now we are in this stupid world ....
i'm Iberian biophysicist and it was 'not my reason to like this
Jon Oliver you are being so disingenuous. You're actually being racist yourself, you are equating black Schools as being bad and white schools of being good, without taking economic and cultural difference into play. Instead you think it's only about skin color. You are lying to yourself if you think all cultures have the same rate of violence, emphasis on education, two-parent households, etc. Why are Asians able to come to our country and do so well. Better yet why are Africans able to come here go to either school and succeed at a higher rate. This idea you have of thinking you know more about American racism than the majority of actual Americans is silly. You didn't go to school here, You have no idea what you are talking about. How many black kids did you go to school with? Go back to England you loser, POS, ditban, twit.
So the white kids that went to a new school that was instantly upgraded, guess who upgraded it. Those white parents that kids went there. Racism? No. Family of children actually caring enough to spend their own money for greater good? yes
My white son and I moved to NC he was one of 2 of the white children in the high school. He never had fights and had many friends. He told me though mom they are so behind here. They were studying things he had learned 3 years ago. Also he said they didn't even have paper towels in the bathroom. Even textbooks were low and students had to share. Ridiculous in 2015.
In Canada you get government funding and all that jazz and there really isn’t “racial neighbourhoods” like it’s very interracial here. And every school has to follow what the school board says to teach basically the education depends on the city you are in and the country you learn about many countries pasts, many wars, Canadian history and First Nation culture and the tribes that were near the city you lived in like the ones we learned in my city were Iroquois and Metis but we also learned a bit about the Inuit people. I think America should follow those steps they were close sometimes they just got to tell the racist parents to shut the fuck up
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