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Stephen Fry on Catholic obsession with sex

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Actor and comedian Stephen Fry makes a perspicacious point about Catholicism's twisted sexual doctrines. I think, however, that his point applies to many sex-obsessed religions, including the Bahá'í Faith and Islam. This clip comes from the recent Intelligence Squared Debate of Stephen Fry's paired with Christopher Hitchens against Archbishop John Onaiyekan and Ann Widdencombe MP on the motion "Is the Catholic church a force for good in the world?" aired 11-7-09 on BBC World. The full debate is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5OMNPmoVAw The video from which this was taken is here: http://youtu.be/d5OMNPmoVAw?t=24m14s Help us caption & translate this video! http://amara.org/v/G22O/
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tito810 (9 месяцев назад)
This guy needs help. It's quite a shame that his heart has turn cold.
Fran Reizl (10 месяцев назад)
Everything said by the guy who changes his partners every few months. Bro, go and cover yourself with a blanket; emotional speeches and clapping of uninformed crowds are not stating any fact, just confirming a huge lack of understanding of teachings of the Church. I wish he reads Theology of the body by John Paul II. Please Steve, do it!
Stephen Strange (4 месяца назад)
Fran Reizl he's married
Theresa Gioia (2 года назад)
your lack of understanding of what the Catholic view about sex is wrong. please read Catechism. I will pray for you and your followers. And yes. Condoms promote more sex. and results of contraception have been deadly. Self control is the most human gift. Simple truth.
John King (2 года назад)
Sorry, you addressing me? If you are, then I support everything you have just written, I am on your side. 
Anthony Starfield (2 года назад)
You don't know thing one about sex. What do you have against condoms? That makes no sense at all. Condoms prevent unwanted pregnancies. Catholics have this weird, pretend birth control method that supposedly involves ONLY having sex when a woman is unlikely to get pregnant. There are LOTS of forms of birth control. People should use the best tools they have at their disposal. It makes ZERO SENSE to keep writing with a quill pen when we have ball point pens and computers now.
John King (2 года назад)
+luvmynieces2pieces Sex education coming from the roman church which instructs all of its clergy, both male and female to not have sex and not get married if they want to remain priests and nuns (that is excluding of course men who were Anglican or other protestant and converted to Catholicism which leads to more hypocrisy). Being lectured (taught) by the roman church on sex is like being told what types of meats we should be eating by a vegan. Pathetic and hypocritical. How dare a clergy of virgin celibate male and females have the audacity to lecture men, women and children on sex, right type of sex, contraception, homosexuality e.t.c. Insult to humans. "Simple truth"
Theresa Gioia (2 года назад)
your lack of understanding of what the Catholic view about sex is wrong. please read Catechism. I will pray for you and your followers. And yes. Condoms promote more sex. and results of contraception have been deadly. Self control is the most human gift. Simple truth.
2010paultron (4 года назад)
stephen fry goes in for the kill!
YesorNo14 (4 года назад)
Stephen Fry on Gay obsession with Sodomy.
EagleEyeEire (4 года назад)
Oh and by the way humans are a part of nature. The same as animals and plants and insects. We are not special. We are just another biological mutation of species gone before us.
EagleEyeEire (4 года назад)
Your bodily passions? No... You refuse to give into nature, you know, the thing that keeps life cycles going. Your "intelligence" is a very loose description. Your ignorance more like. Oh and you actually think he's biased? Well fucking durrrrrr. He's at a debate what is he supposed to do? Speak softly for both sides? You fucking dipshit. I feel like I'm losing IQ points by just acknowledging your argument as even slightly valid.
TenderTrap715 (4 года назад)
A century ago, people called the Catholic Church perverted for telling couples to have as many children as possible (have a lot of sex). Today, people are saying the Catholic Church is perverted for demanding celibate priests. Does anybody get the big picture? It's the rest of the world chasing it's own tail, while the Catholic Church has not budged. People also fail to remember that those who forget history are condemned to repeat it and that pedophilia was once an "alternative lifestyle".
royakama (5 лет назад)
2:35 is the beginning of the best analogy ive heard in regards to what the church is...just Wow
jinofthethunder (5 лет назад)
its broken but I personally think it looks quite distinguished
WonderfulWino (5 лет назад)
I could listen to Steven Fry babble on about minutia.
ThymineC (5 лет назад)
Stephen Fry is a legend. Religion can go fuck itself.
Mavaddat Javid (5 лет назад)
No worries, Pickerinho! Thanks for stopping by.
Pickerinho (5 лет назад)
Oh, sorry
Mavaddat Javid (5 лет назад)
Please check the video description.
Pickerinho (5 лет назад)
what is this from?
Mavaddat Javid (5 лет назад)
The "Old Testament" does not call homosexuality an abomination. It calls men having sex with other men "an offensive thing." It never speaks of lesbians. The church says being gay is evil. Unlike yourself, I don't believe you need to *be* anybody especially important to be able to judge the actions of your fellow humans as good or bad. The Christian dictum to "not judge" is literally nonsensical (and self-refuting), since it requires personal judgement to recognize as a good maxim to uphold.
mussman717word (5 лет назад)
Who are you to judge? Who am I to judge? Who is the Pontiff to judge? Is he Christ? Is he God? PJP II basically just re-stated what the Old Testament had to say about the matter, homosexuality being an abomination. If you've got a problem, take it up with the book. Furthermore, it was referring to the sin; not the sinner. Again, we're all sinners. Who knows? Mr. Fry may be very well closer to Sainthood than JPJII himself. The Church doesn't pretend to answer that, and neither do I.
Mavaddat Javid (5 лет назад)
Are you saying that the Pope is as much a sinner as an openly gay person like Mr. Fry? An encyclical on behalf of Pope John Paul II calls gay people "ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil." How is that not calling gay people "evil"? Can you explain that? The dictum to "not judge" seems to be completely meaningless when it is put in conjunction with numerous denunciations of people for the what they believe or the way they choose to live their life (which the Christian tradition does contain).
mussman717word (5 лет назад)
Here's the deal. I'm Catholic, but I also consider myself a huge fan of Stephen Fry. That said he's severely misinterpreting Church doctrine here. No reasonable person would ever consider a man with so much love and humility in his heart an "evil" person. We're all sinners, including the Pope. This whole thing seems pretty obvious. "Judge not lest ye be judged." Even Christ, born a Jew, warned his followers of the lies of the Pharisees. Keep in mind, Fred Phelps is far from Catholic.
alice (2 месяца назад)
Yes but he's gay, and a lot of traditional catholic people think gay people are evil
HarryIII (8 месяцев назад)
mussman717word its nice to hear that you dont consider stephen fry this way, its honestly quite refreshing, but everyone christian (and and non-christians at that) seem to interpret the bible in their own unique way. So while you happen to be more accepting, there are still a lot of christians who would review stephen fry in this respect based on their interpretation of the bible. I think that's the demographic that he is targeting in these debates
zappafile (6 лет назад)
I love Stephen, not "that" way, but I do love him.
omifical124 (6 лет назад)
Well said stephen
soeffingwhat (6 лет назад)
Stop trying to defend it with your pathetic Bullshit. Anyone with a Brain knows that the Catholic Hierarchy is a Corrupt Money-Making Power, like most if not all, Large Religious Groups. And how is the "Devil" off with anyones Brains? Stephen Fry here is not at league with any Supernatural nonsense, he's merely a Free-thinknig individual who has an opinion and is well able to espress it. Quit your babbling and show some PROOF to back up what you say.
Ogorek Ogursky (6 лет назад)
Yes indeed. The Catholic Church was also to blame for the Communist Regime in Russia and Communist Regime in China, North Corea and Cambodia. It is really fascinating to see how brainfree are sometimes the foes of the Catholic Church. However, they are, as one can plainly see, simply the victims of the devil who is off and away with their brains in the pocket... I guess "brain washed" is somehow better than "brain free"... Isn´t ist?
soeffingwhat (6 лет назад)
(cont).... The only reason the Church has done anything about it now, though its a case of "too little, too late" is because now it has NO choice. Its no longer in the Drivers seat, it is being bombarded with questions as to why it betrayed so many People and allowed lives to be ruined. Its still trying to avoid answering them, but it cannot keep that up for much longer. So Mate, YOU cut YOUR Bullshit, and stop licking the Catholic Churches Ass.
soeffingwhat (6 лет назад)
(cont)..... The Catholic Church knew about it ALL but did NOTHING, because it didn't have to. After all, it was in POWER here, the Government used to do whatever it suggested, including tearing whole families apart if one of the Parents happened to be living with someone they weren't married to (check out Mary Norris " a very Irish kind of Hell" mark my words, her story is only one of many HUNDREDS.....(cont)
soeffingwhat (6 лет назад)
(cont).... oh and for your information the Media have never ignored other Sexual abuses, oh but you can be sure that the Catholic Church did, especially here in Ireland. Prostitution, Illegal Abortions and further abuse of Kids....(cont)
soeffingwhat (6 лет назад)
I'm not the one who's bullshitting here mate, your just trying to spew your feeble excuses for the Church cos you are unable to face the real Facts. It was NOT very few Priests, it was a LOT of Priests, people who were meant ot look after Kids but physically and sexally abused them instead. The same with the Christian Brothers and the so-called "Sisters of Mercy. Yes the Church WAS solely to blame because the Hierarchy knew about it and did NOTHING....(cont)
soeffingwhat (6 лет назад)
(cont)....Come here to Ireland and give your opinion to the survivors here who have been fighting for justice for the abused for many many Years. I guarantee you, your views would not be welcomed. Fact!
soeffingwhat (6 лет назад)
And you can be sure that the number of priests who abused kids was WAY more than a mere "less than 1%" so don't even bother trying to justify it with that Bullcrap. Of course the Media focusd on it because those Priests and Bishops, and the Catholci Church in General, were entrusted to take care of those Kids. but they ABUSED it, not just with the sexual abuse but with the subsequent coverups and lies.....(cont)
soeffingwhat (6 лет назад)
Mate, People are angry at the Catholic Church because the Church COVERED UP AND HID THE TRUTH FOR SO MANY YEARS... GET IT?? and those Priests who abused so many young children were, instead of being thrown out of the church like they should have been, sent to other Schools that contained Orphans and Kids placed in the "care" of the Church. So he IS SPEAKING THE TRUTH.
Ogorek Ogursky (6 лет назад)
"Hitler WAS Catholic." - this is a great argument, dumbass :)
Ogorek Ogursky (6 лет назад)
Dude, if you had some grey cells in your brain, you would have known, that burning witches was a specialty of Litheran and Calvinistic "churches". The so called "Kulturkampf" in Germany assigned these atrocities to Catholic Church, denn it is the only Church, which the Lord set up. Hence all the lies you are repeating in the brainless machinelike manner can only attack the one and only Church. We live though all the lies of this kind the last 2000 years, dumbass :)
soeffingwhat (6 лет назад)
(cont)....Its no way near as prevalent in other Religious institutions they way it was in the Catholic Church. Just put your views to the Victims of the Magdalene Laundries and the Chrisitan Brothers here in Ireland, mark my words you would be shouted down with more proof contradicting your own blind faith to that Church. I'm a Catholic, I studied the Church so I know what I;m taking about.
soeffingwhat (6 лет назад)
(cont)..... The Catholic Church also condoned the owning of Slaves hundreds of Years ago, and the Church also was a staunch supporter of the African-Apartheid. Seems like you need more information in order to cleanse yourself of your Poor little "brain-washed Catholic" Mind. You poor thing.
soeffingwhat (6 лет назад)
Oh I assure you i'm not brainless and I am very informed and yes, Hitler WAS Catholic. Regarding the Massacres during Henry III's reign, I;m not doubting that, but theres no real difference when you regard the very plain fact that it was all doen in the name of RELIGION, and the FACT is that even before Martin Luther made is own declaration, Catholics were murdering by the thousands (be it Heretics or "Witches") fully backed by the Church itself....(cont)
Ogorek Ogursky (6 лет назад)
Hitler was Catholic? :))) He probaby also attended the Mass in Dachau concentration camp, where he kept some 3.000 catholic priests (probably out of pure love for the catholic church). Before you start writing, why don´t you inform yourself, you brainless dude? When you write about massacres of the past please don´t forget those on catholics e.g. in England (some half a million only durin the reign of Henry III or another half a million during the enlightened French revolution in Vendee).
soeffingwhat (6 лет назад)
Nope, he's telling the Truch about the Catholic Church, and anyone who has observed the History of the Church and the cover-ups of Child-Sex abuse and hidious hypocracies of it, knows it. You are obviously so brain-washed into thinking you and your Church are right and everyone else is wrong that you are not really someone who can be reasoned with. After all, you have to have a healthy and open mind in order to be able to reason.
soeffingwhat (6 лет назад)
""a symbol of the love a man and a wife have for each other"" - It doesn't have to be a "Man and Wife", it can be between an unmarried Couple, or a Gay/Lesbian Couple and is perfectly natural and normal.
soeffingwhat (6 лет назад)
Hitler was Catholic, the Church did NOTHING to condemn or stop him. And how would you explain the Bartholomews Day Massacre in France, where Catholics massacred thouands of People for being Protestant?? The church did nothing to stop it, in fact they backed it fully, as did they back the burings of "Heretics" in England before the Reign of Queen Elizabeth I. So explain all that if you please?
soeffingwhat (6 лет назад)
Oh it does and it has. Like all other organised Religions, the Catholic Church interprets saying and quots in the Bible to suit its own means. All of them claim to be the only "true" believers but at the end of the Day your like nothing more than bickering Kids, wanting to believe YOU are right and everyone else is wrong.....(cont)
soeffingwhat (6 лет назад)
Oh yes it does, and anyone with a BRAIN knows it.
MrDanielHawes (6 лет назад)
@mavaddat Most definitely distracting I would say, I personally like to look at someone's eyes and mouth when they are speaking (about something interesting at least) and it is very hard to do that with things bouncing and popping up all over the place.
Mavaddat Javid (6 лет назад)
@MrDanielHawes Should I remove the annotations? I only added them to demonstrate what letter from the Pope Stephen was referring to. Do you think it is more distracting than helpful?
MrDanielHawes (6 лет назад)
We don't need your captions all over the screen! Steven covers it quite well...
Ben Nourse (6 лет назад)
Took of the stupid annotations straight away!
Mavaddat Javid (6 лет назад)
@MrOgorrek Hitler was a committed Lutheran and he had the full backing of the Catholic Church (who never excommunicated or spoke out against a single Catholic Nazi, except propaganda minister Goebbels who was excommunicated for divorce). Your morals are of your own design too. You just don't admit it. You design your morals to match the prescriptions of another person. You don't admit that you designed them yourself, because you are scared. I design my morals toward compassion and tolerance.
Ogorek Ogursky (6 лет назад)
@mavaddat "There is no good reason for any rational, reasonable person (not just me) to accept the authority of the Catholic church." Sure, that is exactly what Hitler and Stalin did. But they went a bit further and killed people in the name of "morals of their own choosing and their own design".
Mavaddat Javid (6 лет назад)
@MrOgorrek There is no good reason for any rational, reasonable person (not just me) to accept the authority of the Catholic church. Since I assume you are rational and reasonable, there is also no good reason for you to accept the authority of the Catholic church. Rather, your morals are of your own choosing and your own design. If you happen to design them in accordance with the prescriptions of the Catholic church, that doesn't make them less of your own choice.
Ogorek Ogursky (6 лет назад)
@mavaddat To people like you and the that poor neurotic guy above there is no reason to accept God´s authority whatsoever. There is, however, a lot of reason for the confused to accept the authority of the snake. Then for them it is "natural" to commit sin, hence any guy refusing God´s authority will naturally see a lot of goog in devil´s actions - such as killing unborn kids, killing the old (euthanasia) and revelling in all kinds of sick atrocities calling them "natural".
Mavaddat Javid (6 лет назад)
@MrOgorrek Every religion claims to be the ONLY institution which doesn't change God's words. The Catholic Church is not unique in claiming to be unique. There is no reason to think that the Catholic Church's interpretation of the Bible is best, nor is there any reason to think the Bible represents the will of an omnipotent, good deity. In short, there is simply no reason to accept Catholic authority to condemn anyone's behaviour especially when it is such a dysfunctional sex-obsessed religion.
Ogorek Ogursky (6 лет назад)
Moral evil will always remain evil - even after 1000 Frys will talk about their permissive way of life for the next 2000 years. But what you would expect from a gay guy? Catholic church ist the ONLY institution which does not change Lords words. Hence, it is the natural enemy of all humans following abnormal ways full of sin. Thank God for The Pope! Yours Very Truly and Very Catholic Ogorrek
Mavaddat Javid (6 лет назад)
@philipmarie1854 There are plenty of activities we undertake for no further reason than pleasure (e.g., rollercoasters, skiing, bird watching, etc.). The Catholic Church only condemns those pleasurable activities relating to (non-reproductive) sexuality because The Catholic Church is obsessed with sex. Face it: Your religion is a sex-obsessed, pleasure-hating institution that promotes suffering as a means of redemption. Your religion's sadomasochism is leagues beyond the Marquis de Sade's!!
Mavaddat Javid (6 лет назад)
@philipmarie1854 You still see a picture of him whenever you come to this video. So clearly you can stand to see a picture of him. It is true that marketing and advertising abuse our sexual insecurities to make us want to buy things we don't need. This damages to society. In exactly the same way, the Catholic faith also abuses our sexual insecurities and makes us think we need repentance for totally harmless sexual feelings or actions. Both institutions are obsessed with sex in an unhealthy way.
Mavaddat Javid (6 лет назад)
@philipmarie1854 Nope. I'm not the one who said I cannot exist in a world with the Catholic Church. You said you cannot even stand to see a picture of Stephen Fry, but you watched a whole video of him. You aren't very careful when you think, are you?
Mavaddat Javid (6 лет назад)
@philipmarie1854 Sure you can — you watched a whole three-minute video of him.
zoe taylor (6 лет назад)
condoms will save the world. the rest who think opposite may go and f** themselves. definitely!
MrRagingbovine (6 лет назад)
sex is jolly
DemonLDR (7 лет назад)
@Jarren202 lol. Sorry dude.
DemonLDR (7 лет назад)
@Jarren202 Fear is not an excuse for teaching superstition, fairy tails, and incorrect information. Spending a lifetime in fear is not a lifetime, its a life sentence. Religion, and the belief in god has past its time. We now have science. Science is all based on fact, and if the facts are proven to be inacurate, then the scentists are willing to change their views, so they coincide with the evidence, where as religion changes the science to match their ideas. BIG difference.
DemonLDR (7 лет назад)
@Jarren202 Other religions don't exist. God is nothing more than a security blanket for the weak.
Matthew Singh-Dosanjh (7 лет назад)
@robocrapz Nothing quite like carrying water for child rapists, huh?...*dunderhead alert*
James Tarr (7 лет назад)
Stephen Fry has a new fan!
jwbartle (7 лет назад)
@robocrapz "Why are atheists silent about the catholic stand on the death penalty, abortion, torture, environment?" Uh... they aren't in the slightest. Perhaps you need to broaden your horizons more if you don't think the atheism communities out there are silent about this.
nightseifer (7 лет назад)
I hate to sound so crude, but I guess the term ”You got SERVED” comes to mind.
GIVE ME THAT DREAM MATTE MOUSSE (7 лет назад)
Wow, that was, just...woah.
Mavaddat Javid (7 лет назад)
@robocrapz It's not just atheists who criticize the Catholic Church's obsession with sex. Every rational person criticizes the Roman Catholic cabal of celibate child-molester apologists telling humanity how to have sex. Who's obsessed with sex? Yep, it's still Catholics.
Casey Cabral (7 лет назад)
I am a Catholic but I agree that the church has become so so twisted nowadays. Religion is not something that should be force fed to someone it should be found by someone by their own will
Paddy234 (8 лет назад)
@GDATERRY There is no common atheist, put a pile of atheists into a room and they'll just fight each other to the death
GDATERRY (8 лет назад)
@Paddy234 I love how your description of the common atheist so aptly fits the common religious man. Furthermore, you're an idiot. Good bye.
Paddy234 (8 лет назад)
@mavaddat As i said before NOWHERE does the Catholic church call anyone evil, it is merely the act itself. If someone has gay thoughts or feelings this is not sinful, it is only the act that is. Why don't you actually read the catechism of the Catholic church and find out what it says, so many athiests are not bashing the Catholic church actual teachings but what they think it is and this makes their arguments so woeful
Mavaddat Javid (8 лет назад)
@Paddy234 I even provided the quotation from the Pope where he called being gay "an intrinsic moral evil." Pope John Paul wrote in his 2005 book, "Memory and Identity," that gay marriage is part of "a new ideology of evil." On July 31 2003, the Vatican urged Catholic politicians to actively campaign against legalising gay marriages which it said were "evil, deviant and posed a grave threat to society." So Paddy, would it be fair to conclude that you are stupid, ignorant, and/or a hypocrite?
Paddy234 (8 лет назад)
No wonder most athiests are kids or young adults who know most things from what the tv tell thems, this was the worst and awkward opinion of an athiest ever to watch. The Catholic church calls NOONE evil and says homosexuality though it's behaviour wrong should be treated with respect and dignity like everyone else. Just merely a bunch of pleasure seekers trying to justify their immorality by hiding behind something good, there is no sense and logic to this argument
omgac1 (8 лет назад)
theres only one thing to say about this.....owned!
Jordan Herrick (8 лет назад)
I kid you not, at the end of this video, i practically shouted at my computer: "Oh. Hell. Yes!"
hymnofashes (8 лет назад)
I've rarely seen an institution owned this hard. God, what an intellectual massacre. They'd better just pretend he doesn't exist.
The13thLeprechaun (8 лет назад)
YES. This man is brilliant and amazing. :DDD
duffer (8 лет назад)
A genius
Pat O'Driscoll (8 лет назад)
Your responses are moronic..
Mavaddat Javid (8 лет назад)
@indebted2chrizt I don't... believe in anything? You mean like I literally have no beliefs? About anything? Or that I have no religious beliefs? Or I have no beliefs about what's good or bad? Can you clarify? Also, you think beliefs are meant to be "protected"? No wonder! Your beliefs are so fragile, that they cannot be tested, examined, questioned, or even considered. Beliefs aren't for protecting, my poor boy. They're for sharing and thinking about.
Mavaddat Javid (8 лет назад)
Muslims say *you* are silly for not believing in Allah. They say that Allah is the reason to believe in Allah! But luckily, there's no reason to believe either of you!
Mavaddat Javid (8 лет назад)
According to Muslims, Allah wants you to believe in Him, but if you ignore Him, He will not keep the jinn from pouring molten iron down your throat on Judgement Day. But luckily, there's no reason to believe either of you!
Mavaddat Javid (8 лет назад)
@indebted2chrizt And so will you if Muslims are right. But luckily, there's no reason to believe either of you!
PrepUS214 (8 лет назад)
As a catholic I agree..we need a another Vatican 2
Tony C (8 лет назад)
Brilliant and spot on. Bravo. I rarely applaud at my computer....today was one of those days :)
Mavaddat Javid (8 лет назад)
Thanks for commenting, @samerawadh. I totally agree. ;-)
panthera50 (8 лет назад)
He is SOOOOO right and honest !!! Love this man. ^^)
Mavaddat Javid (8 лет назад)
@vikramkrishnan That seems a contrary justification of the predicate "nihilistic," since Nietzsche's transvaluation of all values was (in Nietzsche's mind) the cure to nihilism. He saw it as describing the way of escaping the nihilism of the Christian system that says there are no intrinsic goods except that God deems them good, arbitrarily. It's ironic and (somewhat tragic) that so many identify Nietzsche with nihilism when the goal of his philosophy was to describe the human basis of value.
Mavaddat Javid (8 лет назад)
@vikramkrishnan How do you mean "nihilistic"? Like they don't believe any thing has value?
THESocialJusticeWarrior (8 лет назад)
mavaddat, lets just stick with main-stream religions, the ones that billions of people follow.
Mavaddat Javid (8 лет назад)
@ndyt I guess there are some sex-positive religions out there. Tantra comes to mind. But I'm not very familiar.
Mavaddat Javid (8 лет назад)
@vikramkrishnan Ha. You've got a point.
Mavaddat Javid (8 лет назад)
Glad you like it! @SupaAmi
Mavaddat Javid (8 лет назад)
@MatthewMuhammad I think such an obsession with sex is reinforced by its sheer irrationality. Let's think about it: Do religions that demand strict pre-marital abstinence while declaring the purpose of marriage to be the production of children and defaming homosexuality have any factual basis whatsoever for their beliefs? I mean, is there any evidence whatever that this is a healthy way to think about our most intimate human relationships? As an offspring churning mechanism?
SupaAmi (8 лет назад)
This is WIN. I love it.
MatthewMuhammad (8 лет назад)
I haven't watched the clip yet, but I have often wondered about this paradox myself. Why do "hardcore" religious people seem to talk about sex just as much as the people whom they consider "immoral" and "wicked"? It's like the saying, "you become what you hate", or "as a man thinketh, so he is". The more "moral" people focus on "immorality", the more "immoral" their views on life actually become.
THESocialJusticeWarrior (8 лет назад)
Great vid! Too bad he didn't just substitute religion for catholic church. They all try and tell you sex is evil.

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