Gender is a very touchy subject these days - whether you believe it's a social construct or you don't. Both sides of the argument seem to overlook evidence on the opposing view. In this short video I'll go over some of the main arguments and evidence that both support the idea of gender as a social construct and refute it.
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In recent years many social scientists have begun to believe that gender identity is not a stable and fixed trait. They argue that it is socially constructed and can vary over time. Some have even argued that there are more than two genders and have created additional classifications by using terms such as cis-gender, transgender, gender queer, non-binary, gender fluid, agender, etc.
Anyways, the two competing ideas about whether gender is a social construct come from the familiar nature vs. nurture debate. In other words, is it our environment that makes us who we are or our biology?
Those who say gender is a social construct often argue the following:
1. There are differences in gender norms in different cultures. For example there are subcultures in India that identify three genders. And in Chile some believe you must channel another gender to accomplish certain tasks. The list goes on. According to the academics Candace West and Don Zimmerman gender is “an emergent feature of social situations: both as an outcome of and a rationale for various social arrangements, and as a means of legitimating one of the most fundamental divisions of society" (West & Zimmerman, 1977, p. 126). By the way I looked up Candace West on Rate My Professor and she only got a 2.1 out of 5. Would you eat at a restaurant that got such a low Yelp score? I don’t think so. Old Donny didn’t do much better.
2. Language forms our reality. The words man and woman are simply words to describe certain phenomena, but don’t describe every option or experience of all people in our culture. Phrases like “be a man” or “boys don’t cry” are used to pressure boys into conforming to traditional masculine gender roles while “run like a girl” and other women-centered phrases pressure girls into behaving in a way that is considered traditionally feminine.
Others say that gender is a feature of nature, not nurture. They say:
1. Being exposed to testosterone and estrogen will make the way we behave inherently different. For example, there are studies that show male babies and female babies behave differently given different stimulus. Male babies tend to stare longer at mechanic objects while female babies tend to stare longer at faces which may explain why women and men tend to find themselves in different career paths –men often gravitate toward science and engineering while women toward health care and education.
2. The reason some women and men identify as a gender opposite of their sex is because sometimes nature has hiccups. For example some female fetuses are exposed to large quantities of male hormones and develop Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia – a fancy term for a disease that may alter the sex organs of people. Also, there are members of the trans-community that believe gender is biological. Some transwomen have stated that while they were brought into this world as men, from the get go they felt biologically that they were women, and thus behaved as a woman. Their argument is that if gender was socially constructed, then as a boy who felt like a girl they would have been socially pressured into feeling like boys. However, despite being socially pressured into feeling like boys these transgender women have always felt like women despite their sex being male.
3. A boy named David Reimar whose circumcision went horribly wrong, was given sex reassignment surgery as a 22 month year old and was raised as a girl named Brenda. Brenda was given girl toys, but always seemed to gravitate toward more traditionally boy toys. Eventually as a teenager she expressed her suicidal thoughts to her parents, and her father told her what had happened. Despite the female hormones and socialized pressures to be a girl, Brenda identified as a male and changed her name back to David when she was 14. Years later David started treatment to reverse the reassignment given to him as a 22 month year old and married a woman. Unfortunately years later after battling with a failed marriage and depression, at 38 years old he killed himself. This shows that despite the social pressures of David’s parents and doctors to identify as a girl – he still felt like a boy.
It is a proven fact of reality that gender is NOT a social construct. With the rise of postmodernism, many people simply reject facts that are inconvenient to their narrow minded world view, believing that objective reality is either irrelevant or non-existent. Hoping that you are not one of those people, I present a decisive refutation of the claim that gender is a social construct.
If we define gender as the several distinctions between male and female gender expression, then some aspects of gender can be considered socially constructed. For example, nowhere in science does it say that wearing a dress is a woman thing. That is entirely the result of social influence. However, gender, biological sex and gender expression are three separate concepts. Many aspects of gender actually have their routes in unalterable human biology. As a matter of fact, there are inherent biological differences between the male and female brains, which inevitably lead to different behaviors.
According to Brain Differences Between Genders by Dr. Gregory L Jantz Ph D, there are proven physical differences in the way that men’s and women’s brains process speech. While baby boys and girls are in utero, their brains develop with different hemispheric divisions of labor. The left and right hemispheres of the male brain and the female brain are set up differently. While females typically have verbal centers on both sides of the brain, males usually have verbal centers exclusively on the left hemisphere. Subsequently, women describe stories, incidents, feelings, objects and places with more words than males. Men and boys generally have fewer verbal centers and less connectivity between their words centers and their feelings or memories. The female gender is naturally advantaged in discussing senses and emotions together. That is information came from this source:
In 2006, Gender Related Differences in Lateralization of Hippocampal Activation and Cognitive Strategy by Lars Frings, Kathrin Wagner, Josef Unterrainer, Joachim Spreer, Ulrike Hasband and Andreas Schulze-Bonhage made made a similar finding. In the men’s brain, hippocampal activation was substantially more right lateralized, compared to the more left lateralized hippocampal activation of women’s brains. That information came from this source: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/7264310_Gender-related_differences_in_lateralization_of_hippocampal_activation_and_cognitive_strategy
According to Sex Differences in the Human Visual System, published in the Journal of Neuroscience in 2017, males and females have different ways of processing visual information. Neurology can explain these differences. These differences might actually be related to the differences in the prevalence of mental disorders such as schizophrenia and autism. That information came from this source:
A review on sex differences in processing emotions by M.E. Kret and B. De Gelder in 2012 states that the neurological differences between female and males should not be ignored. In the field of self expression and recognizing emotions, women outperform men. However, men show greater responses to threatening cues. That information came from this source:
According to Sex differences in brain gray and white matter in healthy young adults: Correlations with cognitive performance by Ruben C. Gur in 1999, there are significantly different proportions of white matter, grey matter and cerebral spinal fluid between the male brain and the female brain. There is a correlations between these physical differences and differences in various tests and cognitive performance between males and females. The study helped confirm that men have a higher percentage of white matter and cerebral spinal fluid and women have a greater percentage of grey matter. Due to these differences a correction is sustained for total intracranial volume. That information came from this source:
There is legitimate scientific evidence proving that biologically influenced differences in behavior of boys and girls is apparent as early as six months of age, before children have any understanding of gender identity or social expectations, according to Sex differences in six month old infants’ effects and behavior impact maternal caregiving, published Marta Katherine Weinberg of the University of Massachusetts in 1992. It is impossible to account for these differences by differences in interactions baby boys and baby girls have with their mothers. Significant differences between session stability in both sex’s behavioral and effective displays was found particularly in the first play. This strongly suggests that this is an age at which stress does not highlight individual differences. There is an overwhelming amount of data to suggest that, compared to girls, boys are more socially directed and effectively reactive than girls. Girls are more object oriented and use more self regulatory behaviors than boys. Therefore, six month old babies show gender based effective, behavioral and self-regulatory differences appearing in the absence of maternal effect and behavior. That information came from this source: https://scholarworks.umass.edu/dissertations/AAI9219513/
According to Sex differences in response to children’s toys in nonhuman primates (Cercopithecus aethiops sabaeus) by Gerianne M Alexander and Melissa Hines in 2002, inherent biological differences between male and female brains, shown during infancy, are found not just in humans, but other primates as well. Baby male monkeys naturally desire to play with trucks and other traditionally masculine toys, while baby female monkeys naturally desire to play with dolls and other traditionally feminine toys. That information came from this source: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/13064645_Sex_differences_in_brain_gray_and_white_matter_in_healthy_young_adults_Correlations_with_cognitive_performance
Despite the irrefutable proof that gender is not a social construct, that definitely does not mean that gender and biological sex are one and the same. In other words, it is possible to have a female body with female reproductive organs and a double X chromosome, while having a male brain, or have a male body with male reproductive organs and a Y chromosome, while having a female brain. Such a condition is called gender dysphoria. Scientists do not completely understand what causes gender dysphoria, the popular belief is that it is caused by hormonal imbalances during fetal development or genetic factors which result in a brain with a physiology not matching up with the sex characteristic of the body. Therefore, gender dysphoria is a congenital condition and not a social construct.
A more in detail description of what gender dysphoria is can be found by checking out these links:
The unfounded assertion that gender is a social construct actually invalidates transgender people as a group, because it reduces their gender identity to a role playing game. If the gender with which you identify is purely the result of social conditioning and it is possible to reject those social standards, that means that it is possible to choose your gender identity. That means that gender identity is just a preference and you have no basis for demanding that people respect your pronouns, because your “choice of gender” is no more worthy of respect than your favorite ice cream flavor or pizza topping.
No one who actually suffers from gender dysphoria would claim that gender is a social construct, because for them it is not. To hear a more in detail explanation if this topic from an actual real transgender individual, check this link to this video by male to female transgender YouTuber Blaire White:
Gender is NOT A Social Construct!
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The myth about gender being a social construct came from a famous example of science fraud. In the 1960’s John William Money a psychologist from New Zealand believed in gender neutrality, the theory that sexual identity is the product of social conditioning and had nothing to do with biology. Money actually thought that a girl could become a boy or the other way around, simply by being raised that way. In August of 1965, a pair of identical twin boys named Brian and Bruce were born in Winnipeg Canada. At six months of age, both babies were diagnosed with pathological phimosis, a condition which makes it physically impossible for the foreskin of the penis to properly retract. This condition interferes with the passing of urine. The two boys got circumcised to correct the problem. Bruce’s circumcision went horribly wrong, and his genitalia was burnt beyond repair. The doctor did not operate on Brian, whose condition would later clear up by natural means. Bruce’s parents took him to see Dr. Money at John Hopkins hospital in Baltimore. Money recommended that Bruce get gender reassignment surgery, since his disfigured penis would make it tough to happily live life as a male. At the age of 22 months, Bruce’s male genitalia was surgically removed, he was given a rudimentary vulva and Bruce’s name was legally changed to Brenda. Over the next ten years, Dr Money observed Brenda and Brian and Brenda was completely unaware that “she” used to be a boy. Money claimed that the experiment was successful and that Brenda lived life as a normal little girl alongside her very different twin brother. This was a huge lie. Back in Canada, Brenda behaved in a masculine manner, playing with her brother’s boy toys instead of her own girl toys. As Brenda matured, her voice deepened, despite the female hormones that she took, and she preferred to urinate standing up. Money suggested that Brenda’s rudimentary vulva be reconstructed into a more complete vagina. The parents refused. In 1980, when Brenda was 14, Brenda was suicidal. The parents finally told Brenda that she was born a boy. Brenda decided to become a man. Brenda’s name was legally changed to David, he underwent numerous genital reconstructive surgeries and got a mastectomy to remove the breasts that he had developed from the estrogen therapy. Though Money’s experiment was a failure and fraud, he continued to flaunt his fake success. In the archives of Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine, there is an article titled Sex Reassignment at Birth: A Long Term Review and Clinical Implications. Here is a link to that article: http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/1961to1999/1997-sex-reassignment.html This article exposes the failure of Money’s experiment.
Ok video, but terrible conclusion, what is the point of this debate then if the only thing you can conclude is "whatever, go on with life and be happy"?
The question I ask myself is how can we know that someone has a different gender -outside of them telling you-? Is to feel a certain way sufficient to determine gender? If there is no outside way of determining it, how do you reliably differentiate between a crazy person and a genuine one? Simply belief? Do you have a scientific or rigorous way? If characteristics of one person is determine only by the one person (and ask for immediate-no inquiry required or possible for that matter- social recognition), does it apply to all characteristics (ethical behavior, species determination, etc.?)
I feel like this whole gender thing is going to be one of those things the next gen or the one after that will look back to and say “what on earth were they thinking?”, likely because they’ll have bigger things to worry about
I feel like this whole gender thing is going to be one of those things the next gen or the one after that will look back to and say “what on earth were they thinking?”, likely because they’ll have bigger things to worry about
No one has EVER been able to explain to me what it means "to feel like a (wo)man" ..... if you don't live through menstruations and the fear of getting pregnant, you don"t know what it means to "feel like" a woman ... anything else is stereotype and we've just been through generations battling against stereotypes and expectations!!!
Some people hold these truths to be self evident: that all humans are created equal and are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights. Among these are the Rights to Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness.
Thus all humans should be considered equal in the eyes of the law: including trans-people.
If a man decides they would decides he would rather just change clothing and live his/her Life as a woman, is it not his/her Right to Life, Liberty & Pursuit of Happiness to do so? It is not any legitimate business of the federal, state or local government. Nor is it any business of his neighboprs or potential employers. If he wants to be called she and change his name to a feminine name, so what?
If a man decides they would decides he would prefer to take hormones and sexual reassignment surgery and live his/her Life as a woman, is it not his/her Right to Life, Liberty & Pursuit of Happiness to do so? It is not any legitimate business of the federal, state or local government. Nor is it any business of his neighbors or potential employers. . If he wants to be called she and change his name to a feminine name, "What difference at this point does it make?"
A certain stone age tribe in India (who are baffled by the idea of bathing and also practice slavery) identifies three genders. Therefore ALL THE WORLD should have more than two genders!!!
Fucking feminist logic man...
It's the equality brigade doing this tho. I don't think most people believe it. It feels right in most people's head that the would should be this equal and fair place where nobody is disabled, everyone is equal and it's all nice. There are differences in gender and these people who want this form of equality feel they should campaign in favour of policy that enforces equality. Such as quotas in jobs, females playing in male sports teams and all the insanity that goes with it.
Bottom line is, I am not a frog and no matter how you write the policy I will never hop from a Lily pad. It's not my biology. All you can do with policy is be nice to the frogs, you can't change what they are.
*Men are able to be stronger than women with less effort.*
_ Does that mean if you pick a random man and a random woman that the man is automatically always stronger than the woman? *No.*
Does it mean that society does not tell men to "man up" and not be weak, does it mean there are no roles? *No, there are roles.*
We should acknowledge there's only 2 genders and sex:
Men or women
*But* we should *ALSO* acknowledge hormones (testosterone and pheromone) affects the brain.
sometimes a men is affected by pheromones and thus, is more detailist, emotional and, most times weaker.
sometimes a women is affected by testosterone and thus, acts more aggressive and like stronger activities (or grows less breasts, less marked hips, etcetc. <- maybe this two aren't affected by hormones, sorry ladies...)
but regardless, they fall under the only 2 genders.
(ALSO if someone brings it up, hermaphrodite aren't exactly in the middle of both genders, so get up to it)
"Language has historically simplified itself" its a pretty wild claim. Language as a human phenomenon doesn't really have many universal terms that I would call "simplifying". Language is always evolving, and as society calls upon it to describe our more complex understandings and social notions, language will probably become more complex, if I were to guess.
What I don't understand is why people seem to assume that their PERSONALITY is soley dependant on their GENDER. I know that in some cultures, and even the past life styles, they were funneled into certain archtypes, but even then we historically have people who didn't follow those 'norms.' I'd need to actually look into history again, but I'm quite certain we've had effiminate men who weren't called women or anything like that so it's not as if it's some foriegn concept. There are only 3 things I think: Male and Female for how your reproductive organs work, and those suuuper rare people who actually have both. I'd probably classify those who've had surgury to switch with that latter category, but if they haven't had still got their original parts then they are the male/female equivalent that they are. It's the whole point of genders anyway; who you can mate with.
I also don't care that this a year+ video.
As someone who is female-to-male, I believe the whole nurture aspect where gender is a social construct really shoots the trans community in the foot. You say that people are born transgender, but you say that gender in and of itself is not biologically driven. Makes perfect sense huh?
My gender is All knowing so you can't question me. I have all the answers in life due to my gender. Because of this I learned that my gender does not exist and was made up by me, thus creating it into a social construct that just confuses more people.
Biological sex is encoded in DNA and genitals. Gender is like an abstraction of biological sex based on the external appearance. So it's directly linked with biological sex. You can change your gender, but not biological sex.
Yes. Gender didn’t exist till the 1950’s. The only words to describe what we now know as gender is male, female, and sex. This means two things.
1. SJW’s are right about what they say as gender being a feeling based construct can be molded to fit the feeling of others.
2. Nobody should be taking gender seriously as it really doesn’t matter unless your discussing sex life.
In a word. 'No'. Scientific fact is scientific fact. These pseudo-intellectuals with a deviant streak are only fooling themselves. Nobody with a learned mind entertains them for a minute. Reproduction ability and chromosome distribution is not up for debate. Fact is fact.
There are only two genders, man and female, determined by your birth. If you are a female that prefers engineering and muscle things over babies and cute faces, then you are still a female who happen to have non conforming interests, and if you are a man who enjoys giving care and knitting, you are still a man who happens to have non conforming interests?
Gender - the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones). So gender is, whether one feel like BEING a Pickup truck. Even the 'state of being male or female' has been completely neutralized by the LEFT, so screw it... it's self assigned identity, and nothing more... hence, I am a truck.
There are several things that need to be addressed in the discussion on gender, that many people do not seem to want to address.
The social construct argument fails when someone seeks to make biological changes. The individual is seeking to alter something not connected to the situation they believe. If you want to wear a dress and makeup to feel girly, that is a social construct. Altering your genitals is not altering your social interactions, it is altering a biological build to suit your social preference. From this perspective, how is someone going through surgery for gender reassignment surgery any different then someone having a healthy leg chopped off so they can be comfortable with their legs?
While you have a right to believe about yourself what you chose, that does not mean that you have a right to force anyone else to address you as such. As soon as you do so, you are no longer advocating rights but advocating the loss of rights for another. It would be no different then forcing a religion on people or forbidding religion. This is the biggest problem with the discussion on "transgender rights". In most countries that this will reach, they already have the right to describe themselves how they chose, but they are trying to force others to adhere to their beliefs. When it involves government enforcement, it becomes a fascistic regression to days of old.
If people have a problem adjusting to society, there are people who can help with that, and not all of them are sociologists or psychologists, they are just good people who can be a good listening friend. There are numerous people who have trouble adjusting to society that have nothing to do with gender. Growing up as a nerd in the household of a jock is not easy, after at all. Self-mutilation or denial are not good coping methods. Acceptance of yourself as who you are is one of the first steps, no matter what hole society thinks you should be in. It is often this conflict between personal perception and societal groupings which can lead to the most damage to adjustment.
While I disagree with some of the steps many are demanding we take to help them, I can sympathize with their lack of social adjustment and hope they can find acceptance of themselves with alacrity. Disagreement over a solution is not a hatred or bigotry, just a difference of perspective to work with.
This video is very well made and presents arguments from both sides, but there is one thing I can't agree with: the origin of the word gender.
Gender was created and used to avoid the use of the word "sex" in a much pruder time.
"Gender" is a stupid, unnecessary word. One's biological sex is the only thing that means anything significant. Do you have a penis (more T than E) or a vagina (more E than T)? Some, but not all, of your life will be affected accordingly.
I'm basically of the second opinion expressed here. That on the whole men tend to be physically stronger than women and women tend to be caregivers. but the truth of the matter is any combination of hormones the fetus is exposed to during gestation can create a whole range of things in between this doesn't mean that child should reject their biological sex.
that ideology is a a social construct of people who are trying to divide the world into ever more confusing groups and pit these groups against each other for their own gain of social and political power.
I am a strong female though I am not as strong as a dude in many ways in part because I have been rather ill the last couple of years. I am more attracted to a man who knows how to dress well ( handsome and dapper) and comport himself well then to some big meat head. While I would appreciate a male partner who is Handy with tools and would enjoy working on building projects with me I would be just as okay if he preferred to sit in his study and design things or right books that's fine I have interest on both ends of the spectrum. I don't believe that socially disciplining people for having their typical mail or stereotypical female Hobbies preferences or things is healthy for Society at all.
I think for every slightly masculine woman out there there's a slightly feminine guy who would be perfect for her. I think if we just stopped messing with the biological order of things and just let everyone find the person that makes them happy without all these labels and expectations and Bs people would be a lot happier. If a nurturing guy makes me happy and I make him happy then what does it matter that the rest of the world? It doesn't, it it's call mind your own business. I think creating all of these fictitious other arrangements men with men, women with women, calling yourself a million different things that don't change what your biological sex is only confuses the world and makes a lot of people depressed and unhappy. It would be far more honest if we just accepted that we all like what we like and it's usually in the case of heterosexual people they want whatever the opposite of their treats are in their partner. Because of the huge spectrum of hormonal cocktails that a female or male fetus can be exposed to in addition to their bottle sex we have the great amount of variance in human personality psychology and preference. It doesn't make anyone broken for wanting to be a female firefighter or a guy wanting to be a great chef. just like a little boy who wants to grow up to be a tailor & still marry a female and raise support a family should be totally supported in that life choice just as much as a little girl who wants to grow up to be a commercial airplane pilot. There's nothing wrong with these socially productive preferences and choices. in modern society where people are socially free to choose whatever career path makes us the most happy, why should it be a problem?
While I freely acknowledge that homosexual couples exist. In my experience having lived in some of the gayest cities in my state all the people who choose to live that lifestyle are choosing it because they're running away from a heterosexual relationship that hurt them very deeply or some massive insecurities about themselves. That running can be psychologically or even physically to escape an abusive relationship. The world is full of all kinds of pain and people trying to cope with their past. It is a completely valid lifestyle choice for a man to decide that being with women isn't worth it and to find comfort in a man who has a similar experience. And the same is true for women. A very lovely couple that my mother went to University with when I was little had fallen together for the same reason. they've been a lesbian couple for more than 25 years and as far as I know they never got married because they aknowledge that they're together out of their own Brokenness and not out of some change in the order of the cosmos because of the Supreme Court decision. They Foster dogs that would not otherwise find homes and contribute immensely to their community. They are good and caring people, successful professionals and pillars of their community. But I think they have the most realistic perspective I've ever seen on the lifestyle they're living.
If you want to call yourself 'non binary' or any of the thousand tumblr genders, go right ahead, I don't care. But don't expect everyone else to then take that into account and use the correct pronouns. We're humans, not robots. No one who works longer than 10 hours a week could remember even a tenth of that list.
-Violently slams open door(YesIwatchedthevideogoodvideo)- There are two genders. I am female. Because XX chromosomes. Being brutally honest, gender is there for the passing of genes. Men are physically and usually stronger than women, while women tend to be more agile. There are exceptions in every case, of course. But that is simply how it is, under most normal circumstances. Those who would dare blame the majority of men for sexism are garbage, and don't even consider those aggressors adults, they are usually spoiled, self-victimizing brats. Most men are not horrible. There are horrible people in this world to be sure, but that is not everyone. If you didn't know, the more "Victim culture" something becomes, the less people like it. Maybe, I unno, stop that. If you want every single person in this world to get along, that is never happening, as we are all individuals, and to restrict that would be pointless, for individuality is a primary drive for existence. However if you want a *great deal* of people to get along, then stop acting like everyone is trying to fight eachother and I unno, maybe try being strong on your own terms, getting a job, working hard and showing your might through action instead of flagrant, pointless stupidity? I could go on.
But I'm not about to unleash that level of cancer. And don't be that person who is like "aCTION? MURDR?" no. effort. Fruitful, meaningful effort towards the benefit of society, and a bit more quietly so you don't annoy anyone, yourself.
you just used rate my professor to argue that a teacher sucks. i can't take you seriously anymore. maybe you have good points in your video, but attacking a person rather than their argument at any given point is wrong. there are better youtubers out their then you like counter argument who debate liberal inconsistencies much better
Yes, it is, but so what?
All social constructs are based on preexisting biological realities; hence, why they evolved in the first place.
Gender=/= Biological Sex
Though of course, sociological concepts of gender have their basis on the biological reality of sex. Things don't just magically pop into existence, they are caused, and social constructs are no exception.
Gotta break it to you, you are not very correct on where the word gender came from. It originally had nothing to do with behavioural characteristics of male v female. Originally it was used purely to describe one's biological sex. It was literally a clone word for "sex".
The word gender was introduced in the 16th century as a grammatical way of describing a person's biological sex. They did this because the word "sex" had become sexualised in society and was being taken away from its original biological usage. Gender had remained a grammatical way of describing one's biology and was applied to describing the usage of certain words. (i.e Latin, Spanish Genders). It really truly was not until the last 40-50 years that we have begun changing this words meaning and usage into the common "internalised identification" of one's own interests, characteristics and behaviours and how they line up with the historical stereotypes of the sexes (ie. toys, colours, fashion and roles in society).
Gender Stereotypes and the boxes we place around that can definitely be seen as a social construct. The way we describe how males and females should act, what they should like, and what characteristics they should have are social constructs. But that isn't a bad thing, social constructs of this nature were created based on historical tendencies. Although I agree that we should allow people to pursue their own interests, you would be shocked to find that if you do this males and females almost always naturally go to the things that are considered "gender stereotypes". The boy will almost always be drawn to the dinosaur and the girl to the doll. There is a reason they became the gender stereotypes. Marketing companies saw the natural tendencies of their consumers and the marketed those items for those genders, because statistically they knew by doing that they were more likely to sell.
My sister was weak, she had a problem doing one push-up; this had nothing to do with cultural indoctrination. My brother was crazy; he could do that put your hands on the floor and lift you legs up straight thing; this was nothing to do with cultural indoctrination. Men should not impose on women's spaces. OK, we can have a third sex - men/women or women/men - but they need their own space.
My biggest problem with the only 2 genders side is the level of hostility towards gender fluid people and even people that simply agree with the idea of their being more than 2 genders. I'm not one of the people that uses 6 or 7 different terms to describe people but I'm pretty ok with the idea of people mentally, socially and emotionally being male, female or something in between. Either way it all comes down to respect, I see no reason to attack someone that says they're gender fluid or queer gendered and I don't see why I should continue to try to prove someone wrong when a part of their life is working just fine for them
Here's what I hear, "gender is not male or female, male or female is a social construct". What's a transgendered person? "that's a person, for example, that may have been born a male, but identifies as female, so they choose a different gender than the one assigned on their birth certificate, as they consider their true gender as not male, but female". How can they change their male gender to a female gender, if gender is not about male or female, which is assigned at birth? Round and round it goes. Not one person, not yet, has been able to explain it to me so I can understand it fully, from their point of view.
There's real biological differences between sexes, but gender is a social construct, it is no more true than the words we invent and it depends who recognizes it. Gender is nothing more than a classification, and the point of classifications is to simplify things into categories based on relevant information, with what is similar between dissimilar objects. Any other gender besides those that address physical differences are impractical, there might as well be no genders. If we allow gender simply based on nothing but exclusivity of Identity, then it allows each individual to make their own genders -- in which a phenomena we see today (look up attack/apache helicopter), defeating the purpose of classification.
Gender is supposed to be superficial, If i wanted to really know a person, then I'd ask them to tell me about them. I don't want, and need to memorize an additional set of irrelevant information.
If gender were purely a social construct created/enforced by nurture, then David Reimer would never have thought there was something wrong with himself, something that didn't fit, as 100% of his environment was telling him that he was female: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
He was never female. Biologically, he had male DNA/chromosomes, male physical body, male development in the womb, male everything; the doctors simply mutilated him until he looked female and had female hormones flowing through him, while his male hormones were blocked.
Mentally/emotionally (brain), he was also male; he just didn't understand exactly what he was feeling until much later.
If anyone is making an argument for 100% Nurture Only, that case along is the death knell. But I doubt most people are making 100% claims.
Now, does Nurture make for stronger distinctions between the groups? Yes, as is typical of any groups that try to solidify their group-ness. See, for example, when you get leftists and conservatives into the same location and have them talk -- not one-on-one, which might be insightful, but group-on-group. Unless the individuals are particularly open-minded, you're going to find the leftists sticking more strongly to the leftist talking points (to prove they're definitely not conservatives!) and the conservatives sticking more strongly to the conservative talking points (to prove they're definitely not leftists!). This is really quite detrimental, but it happens.
Haidt discusses the dangers in tribalism: https://youtu.be/vs41JrnGaxc?t=147
"Once you engage the psychology of teams, it shuts down open-minded thinking."
Men are encouraged to be more "manly" and less "girly," while women are encouraged to be more "feminine" and less "butch." And when encouragement isn't sufficient, they get *penalized* for failing to meet their gender quotas. This leads to toxic masculinity (a social distortion of regular/positive masculinity), where men feel that being "manly" means no crying, no expressing any soft emotions, less nurturing, more aggression, more physical action, etc. There are similar, though not equally balanced, ideals for women, specifically to differentiate them from men.
I would say that some of these qualities (such as aggression vs. nurturing) have a basis in nature, but they're ramped up to ridiculous or even dangerous levels by social pressures. And it's difficult to even investigate the details with any open-mindedness, because both sides are so invested in their worldview that allowing the other worldview a fair trial by science is tantamount to blasphemy.
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