Reported by: Jesse Knutson
West Manheim Township, York County-- Should panhandling be illegal?
Thats the big question in West Manheim Township, and some residents have taken their views to the corner of Baltimore Pike and Brunswick Drive, where panhandlers have been reported.
I believe in working for your money. Jason Mangus said.
Mangus works a full-time job, but has found time to stand on the street to tell people not to give money to panhandlers.
Give it to a local charity where you know where your moneys going to instead of a stranger thats on the street. Mangus said.
According to Mangus, many of the panhandlers are scamming the public by asking for money they dont need.
Mangus has noticed some panhandlers arriving in new cars, changing from nice clothes into raggedy clothes to look more hopeless, and even using new gadgets, like the iPhone 6.
In response to what Mangus believes is a scam, he decided to make his own sign and stand on the corner himself with the message: Do not give money to panhandlers.
Mangus said hes spreading his message to benefit the kids in the community that he thinks are being sent the wrong message.
When a kid is in a vehicle in the back seat, and seeing the beggar on the median begging for money, theyre going to think thats okay, that its the norm. Mangus explained.
While Mangus believes many people are scamming the system, he knows there are some who are not, but he still thinks they should seek a job instead of standing on a corner, and many people who drove past the corner agreed.
West Manheim Township police have received numerous complaints about panhandlers in the area, but they say there isnt much they can do to stop it.
We have not seen them do anything unlawful. Police Chief Timothy Hippensteel said. We have watched them several times. Theyre not stopping traffic, theyre not forcing anyone to stop, their conversations, if there are any, are very brief and very polite.
In Pennsylvania, there are no laws against panhandling, and according to Hippensteel, thats largely due to the fact that panhandling is considered free speech.
Our advice at this point is if you dont wish to give them money, ignore them and go about your business, drive by.
Some of you are missing the point. THE SCAMMERS DON'T WANT A JOB. They make more money by begging and they pay no taxes. Aside from children, the homeless are living a life which is the result of their bad decisions...alcoholism, drug addiction and/or fiscal stupidity. If they're mentally ill, get them help in a state run facility. I work. I won't give my money away to those who don't...or won't.
People need to realize, that not everyone can just get a job. When you are actually homeless you have next to no chance to get a job. Alot of homeless people might not have ID. Because, they either lost it or was robbed or even could have lost their ID. And without an address they can't get ID, plus you need a form of ID to get an ID. Also, to get a job you need to be able to be clean and to be able to have clean clothes. ALSO!!! Like I said, if you are homeless people do not want to higher you. They do not care about your story.. why you are homeless. People tend to see that your address is a homeless shelter or some place known to hell the homeless and they go into the next application. People are so ignorant to how things "really" are and they just want to say "get a job" plus there are those homeless people who still have jobs but still can't afford a place to live. It just takes a moment to become homeless bit it is much and I do mean much harder to get out of homelessness. I was homeless, I was homeless this time last year. I never panhandled but I know people who has.. I also know there are those who may mess things up for the true people in need. But, do not close your heart's to those in need, instead just open your heart up and help those in need. Because no matter if it is one of those bad apples you will know that you did a selfless thing which makes you a better person for it. And as far as the children are concerned.. they need to see that there are people in need, the parents should show kindness towards the stranger and help them out. Wether it be giving them some useful items and food or a few dollars. It will teach your children to be kind to their fellow man.. their fellow human being. It will teach them to be generous. We have people who are to selfish on this world we need to spread kindness and not let the bad apples of the world get us down and stop us from doing the right thing.
You are a dumb bitch, if you don't wanna give then don't give. He's just mad because the IRS takes his tax money without his consent and these so called pan handlers are smarter cause the money they make is ALL theirs, so stop crying bitch ass pussy
This is perfectly justified political activism against a growing pestilence. Making panhandling illegal will force police to take them in. Sentencing will be get a job or forced labor in a military work camp. Their choice.
I used to see a young black man with a sign said " I don't bite just hungry"with a sad face. Well you don't go hungry in this town.So much to eat the homeless shelters give you all you can eat and the dumpsters are full be of throwaway food
THEY ARE MAKING IT ILLEGAL TOO FEED HOMELESS PEOPLE AND TOO GIVE THEM MONEY...DONT FALL FOR THERE BRAINWASHING....GET IT IF NOONE GIVES THEM MONEY OR FEEDS THEM THEN THEY DIE..SO THEIR ANSWER IS INSTEAD OF DOING THE RIGHT THING AND GIVING THEM A COUPLE DOLLARS THEY WANT THEM TOO DIE...PROBLEM SOLVED SO THEY DONT HAVE TOO LIFT A FINGER...DONT FALL FOR IT GIVE AS MUCH AS U UCAN TOO THE HOMELESS U WILL BE BLESSED..
THEY ARE KILLING OFF HOMELESS PEOPLE BY DISCOURAGING GIVING THEM MONEY SO THIS WAY THEY FONT HAVE TO LIFT A FINGER TOO HELP THEM IF THEY ALL DIE THEN PROBLEM SOLVED....DONT LET THIS HAPPEN DONT GIVE THEM THE GLORY GIVE GIVE GIVE..
BY BRAINWASHING PEOPLE AGAINST GIVING IT EVENTUALLY DESTROYS THE PERSON IN NEED AND THEY EVENTUALLY LOSE ALL HOPE AND EVENTUALLY GIVE UP...THIS IS THE AGENDA OF CITYS AND THE RICH THEY ARE TRYING TOO RID THE WORLD OF HOMELESS PEOPLE..BY STARVING THEM TOO DEATH....
It's called NEW WORLD ORDER...DEPOPULATION PLAN IS TOO RID THE WORLD OF HOMELESS AND POOR SO THAT THE RICH AND THE ELITE CAN CONTROL THE WORLD.THEY WANT TOO KILL OFF HOMELESS PEOPLE SO THEY BRAINWASH U INTO GIVING THEM NOTHING AND THEY EVENTUALLY DIE CUZ NO FOOD OR DRINK AND NO PLACE TO LIVE EQUALS DEATH...
Funny we will gladly give illegal immigrants that sneak into the US illegally FREE MONEY FREE HOUSING FREE FOOD BUT WE HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM GIVING A GUY A COUPLE DOLLARS TOO GET SOMETHING TOO EAT...STOP BEING GREEDY AND START HELPING THE POOR AND DOWN AND OUT
HE NEEDS TOO STOP WORRYING ABOUT SOMEONE HOLDING A SIGN TO GET SOMETHING TOO EAT AND START WORRYING ABOUT THE REAL CRIMINALS OF THE WORLD...FUNNY WE WILL GIVE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS THAT SNEAK INTO THE US ILLEGALLY FREE MONEY FREE HOUSING FREE FOOD BUT WE HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM GIVING A PERSON IN NEED A COUPLE OF DOLLARS TOO GET SOMETHING TOO EAT...STOP BEING JEALOUS AND START HELPING PEOPLE
THIS GUY MUST BE A MILLIONAIRE IF HE STANDS THERE ALL DAY WITH A SIGN...GREED HE OBVIOUSLY IS BEING PAID BY THE CITY TOO HOLD THAT SIGN...WHY ELSE WOULD HE CARE..HE NEEDS TOO STOP BEING BRAINWASHED AND GET A LIFE..IF PEOPLE WANT TOO HELP SOMEONE THATS THEIR DECISION AND HE NEEDS TOO MIND HID OWN BUSINESS
Yes and here in Indiana it's a charge they need too make it illegal in all states they need to get off the streets and get a job or an income stop stealing people's money there is a man on YouTube watch his video's Jason Asselin he said it is a problem in his city in Michigan people on his videos giving him a hard time for posting those videos and they don't understand it's against the law.
Only reason it's illegal is because the government can't tax the money they receive. I'm sure if there was a way for them to tax the money it wouldn't be illegal. The way I see it if a person wants to give money then give if they don't then don't.
I'd rather give to a random homeless person than a charity. I had to stay at a domestic violence shelter once, and most donated and federal money paid salaries of staff, etc. You never got to look through donated items, food was awful, they provided no help paying deposits or providing gas for job searches, etc.
Actually, giving to charity is worse because most charities have huge overhead with employees and executives who draw salaries, benefits and pensions. Most charities are established as tax shelters for the super rich. You have no idea where the money goes. Just donate food or used goods to local shelters. And if you have time to stand around holding a sign, volunteer at a soup kitchen instead. Jeez.
I so agree with you Jason. It should be illegal, we here in San Jose CA. have a panhandler at alot of busy intersections. Please folks give to Salvation Army, Good will there are various charities that take the money and do the right thing.
no actually pal the government lets homeless people be homeless because it's an incentive to the rest of us to keep our asses in a job and work less we become like them that's why they allow it if you're not very smart you don't really realize that do you?
you gangly haired fuk you know when you give money to supposedly Charities it goes into the pockets of Administrators very little bit very little actually gets to anybody who really needs it you're a f****** moron but maybe you need a few nights on the street sleeping on f****** dirt to realize how what people are actually going through I like to take a baseball bat to your knees stupid c*********
You pieces of FUCKING SHIT!!! Some Americans aren't as PRIVILEDGED as you. Some of us are FUCKING VICTIMS OF CURCUMSTANCE! This is simply a conspiracy to stop the poor from having POWER OVER BULLSHIT. It's to ensure that the wealthy have a more powerful EGO. All of life in the material world is a FUCKING GAME!
Who gives a fuck who people give their money to? It's their money that they worked for and they can give it to anybody they want to. This guy needs to get a hobby. The ones who aren't homeless or in need because of circumstances are pieces of shit and ruin it for the truly needy, but you can usually tell someone who is legitimately homeless and in need.
Too true. So easy for those of us with support networks, family, kitchens, restrooms, showers, and bases to operate from...what's TRULY sickening is how much of the imbeciles cheerleading for the banks is what lurks beneath their sentiments. Get a job = pay the usurers interest for the rest of our lives on a mortgage (which, incidentally translates to "DEATH CONTRACT?!?!...people who don't believe it can ask a French speaker what it means), thereby selling our grandchildren into this unsustainable horseshit system. I've lived out of a car before. It does NOT guarantee ANYTHING but more bills for licensing, insurance, registration, etc. It does NOT guarantee a safe place to sleep, ALSO something the bank worshippers mantra fails to account for...The PROFOUND effect of secure sleep. Not having to walk or drive to a public restroom, deal with cops enforcing the laws of the shittiest greed mongers alive, chasing them away from every park, parking lot, or even arresting people who hand you FOOD.
This society is a fucking disease. Money worshipping pricks, whingeing about people living in squalor, while (and BECAUSE) their ugly, snobbish OWNERS make contrive laws stacked against them, too.
So they'll go to church, remembering a few things Jesus said and did, all the while seeming to forget what he said about money, or that the only time he was EVER recorded as having been violent was with the money changers in the Temple. Meanwhile, back to work, bitches. Egypt has some more beer for the slaves, to keep you stupid, greedy, beggars and needy, yourselves.
Does anyone take these asshole lawmakers to court? No. They're too worried about the deep state, who already knows every households ugly little secrets, surfacing to call them out, while their politicians are routinely caught with hookers, drugs, grabbing people's privates, and God knows what else.
Get a job.
GET a fucking clue, for Christ sake. WE the PEOPLE are responsible for this ever growing nightmare, as well as the river of darkness flowing beneath the ship of state.
Think I'm a maniac? It's alright. Anyone who does probably doesn't give a whole foods green shit about the gmo fiascos feeding them with their right hand while supplanting their farmers with the left, can always busy their heads in the endless streams of cognitive dissonance and depressing news they offer on TV, complete with the community destroying, mind numbing alcohol and psychotropic pharmaceuticals they don't seem to mind us hooked on, avaiable over the counter at a foreigner owned tax haven near you! This while they preach nationalism and globalism at the same time (as long as we're the nation in the crown of the globe).
Women have lost their RIGHT to be stay at home moms, men are called Chauvanist for suggesting the above, and someone like me, screaming COME OUT OF HER, O ISRAEL, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE, is seen as madman, in spite of the GALAXIES of evidence ALL AROUND US!!!!
free speech huh I remember when I was homeless and used to have to panhandlers but I also didn't have my ged and couldn't get a job so had to sleep out side and get ga and foodstamps tell I was able to get on my feet and in college witch OMG was amazing a true blessing I pray to go back on day truly do
I applaud the effort that this citizen is doing, and it is that it stirs the stomach to see that every day people take advantage of the goodwill of others.
Most of the panhandler's history is fake, some have a much better vehicle than some of us who work up to two shifts.
I have watch people give money to charities. however here in Florida you have to pay for shelters even though they get money. Here in Florida alot panhandlers panhandle for drugs. However I met a woman who is a veteran who has sought help threw the VA has gotten nowhere. To make matters worse she suffers from mental health issues from the murders of sisters. The woman said to me take me for a drug test I don't use drugs. She was abandoned by her family. So don't judge people.
Don't forget the privatized prison system, where the state and feds actually pay their police to get em in there. Something like 250 dollars a head for what they've termed "indigent".
Pensacola and that miserable pentapolis in escambia are just plain hellishly evil people with regard to homeless. They actually made it illegal to own a blanket on the streets. Hope they shape up soon. Gomorrah met a pretty nasty end, if anything biblical can be trusted. Also part of a pentapolis, I'm led to believe.
If it weren't for Catholic charities throughout that state, it would not at all surprise me to see them start gassing homeless.
u give to charites..u dont know where ur money iz going..lots of people r one paycheck from homeless..an most places who say there helping the homeless such as shelters are in it for the money..how long do u think those places would last if they were no homeless people .there a bizness..ever notice the slogan on the salvation army trucks..doing the most good...evermake u wonder bout that..if so go check in to one of there shelters.an find out.that should tell u the truth about them.someof those shelter chargre u to stay..an know this..all they have iz donated to them..food.cloths furniture autos.bycycles..even toys.they also have a store..those people r the ultimate panhandlers.at christmas the hire people to stand in front of the stores an ring the bell.uve saw them im sure.dont give them money.ifvu do your as dum as a rock..
Not real charities. Real charities abide public disclosure law. Any charity that doesn't give 80%+ the money to the programs is not real Watch stossle program on freeloaders. Many panhandlers have money. In Chicago you can make more panhandling than most people who work.
Right? That worm in Hollywood, Fla, owns at least one Lamborghini, and he's managed to twist the law somehow. He's got crack addicts and anyone else willing to put on one of his pink shirts, out there taking donations all day long on the corners. Meanwhile, the police are roughing up the transients, chasing them out, and even advising them to commit felonies, like jumping on the train, just so they leave.
I mean, I get it. People work our asses off for whatever we make, but it seems to me that a gentrified community belies a LOT of whitewashed sepulchres.
Too true. C
I've volunteered in shelters and kitchens across the country. Some of them are genuine bona fide sh**holes, crawling with drugs, disease, and violence. Many of the people who come to the kitchens refuse to go to the shelters. One of the ones in Florida was called C.O.T.T.S. If I were homeless in key West, I'd have opted to sleep on the beach. People stealing, hussling, throwing up, throwing down, major skin diseases, police showing up day and night, even some dudes masturbating on their bunk. Sorry thing is, even if one of these people crying foul are right about some of them, it's the rotten apples who really seem to shake things up.
I know drugs are a huge problem for many of them, but there are some who simply have no one to fall back on, and don't want to risk contracting TB, (the silent final solution for the disgustingly ignorant statists and class conscious "why-am-I-being-victimised-by-the-sight-of-the-world-outdoors" types), having their gear heisted, having to scrap with one of the more violent ones, or get arrested when one of them tries to get one over on a police search by stuffing their drugs in their marks' personal effects.
These people crying about how put out they are though...truly sickening, miserable examples of humanity as far as I'm concerned, particularly the ones doing their obligatory weekly hour in church on the weekend, while handing enough interest over to banks and the arms dealers hiding behind tax dollars to solve the food and energy, and COMPASSION crises so glaringly present in day to day life across the globe.
Ivory tower is an interesting metaphor, considering the elephant in the room is the one these pukestains killed to build it.
This ugly bitch right here needs to hook up with the fat fuck going out of his way to make shit even harder for those having a hard time. Both of you white trash ignorant pieces of SHIT is exactly what is wrong with this country today. I truly hope you both die slow and painful deaths alone. Your scum...
Omedchazak613 for some people it isn't that easy. You have no idea what some people go through or mental illnesses and trauma related ptsd associated with homelessness. I personally don't give them money either but I do have a good radar and I offer meals. I also volunteer at shelters. You could use some compassion
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