Cities spend massive amounts of public money on privately-owned stadiums. Cities issue tax-exempt municipal bonds that — wait, don’t fall asleep!
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Only that..if before this episode you've watched that episode of student athletics getting less than nothing and being used and abused.. how can complain about the ones that made it not wanting to get back at the society that did this to them first?
Nobody has ever said "let's go hang out near the stadium?" I can't speak to the economic benefits, but stadiums have rejuvenated various areas. San Francisco and Detroit come to mind. Both areas were complete shit holes before. Should stadiums be funded by taxpayers? No. But plenty of areas are now desirable to come to because of stadiums.
Sport is embarrassing. How can people laugh at LARPers and Trekkies and and other goofy enthusiasts, yet consider sports fans to be cool or reasonable? You people are sad! These are kids' games. Let kids enjoy them, and stop being hypnotized and robbed by these trivial distractions. Grow up!
So you get bad education and shit healthcare in exchange for the privilege of watching millionaires give each other brain damage a few times per year in a state of the art arena instead of just a field.
“Two things only the people anxiously desire — bread and circuses.”
- Roman satirical poet Juvenal (circa A.D. 100)
The Latin panem et circenses (bread and circuses) identifies the only remaining interest of a Roman populace which no longer cares for its historical birthright of political involvement.
It marked the decline of an empire. Perhaps history is repeating itself.
The problem America has is that there are so few professional sports teams. As a result the closed shop that exists for teams can make it easy for the owners to make these threats. The fans then panic because the distances they will have to travel to support their team are huge and the cost prohibitive. In England for example there are 92 professional football clubs in a country smaller in area than California. If a club threatened to move in England unless they got a new stadium built by the council they would be laughed at. Like all things in life when there is a scarcity the cost goes up. Maybe if the cities in the US when threatened by a sports team said instead, "fine move but we will found a new team for the city and use the profits to fund other facilities in the city. And if you don't give us access to the league we will launch an anti trust case against you." I just wonder how many teams owners would suddenly have a change of heart. If you think the chances of a city winning such a case would be small there is already a legal precedent in place against the NFL on the statute books.
John Oliver is one of the last few comedians of our time. Most of these other talk show hosts and self-titled "comedians" are minstrels, paid to dance for billionaires. Keep challenging the status quo John, cheers 🍻
They pull that same scam here in Australia. We are about to demolish and rebuild the 2000 Sydney Olympics Stadium and site, costing NSW Taxpayers Billions. It is huge and not even twenty years old. Rebuild and for what? People just bend over and take it without lube. Unforgivable!
So glad I live in Wisconsin, where the Green Bay Packers, our football team, and the stadium are owned by the city. When Lambeau Field needed some work, the public bought shares of $250 each, making everyone with one of those shares an owner. Which sounds really cool when you say it out loud.
As someone in L.A. who's lived all over the place, I find it so hilarious that sports teams threaten to move here. With the exception of the Lakers and sometimes the Kings, compared to literally everywhere else in the US, people here don't give a crap about sports.
Well, the Twins didn't leave but for the most part put out shitty teams season after season but they got a new stadium that my fellow tax payers and I almost completely bank rolled. The Twins will continue to suck as long as the Polad family owns them. The other sucky thing now is I dropped cable about 5 years ago because it was expensive and repetitious. The Twins used to be on one of the local channels but now you have to have cable to view the games. Needless to say, I haven't watched a Twins game in that time period. I miss it even when they suck. Each year I get more and more sickened and frustrated by professional sports, more specifically the team's greedy bastard owners.
There is one reason a Chinese player is hired to play on a US team. So the US team can sell merchandise to Chinese fans... And this is a consideration in many sports - hiring Chinese players or Japanese players to get fans in China or Japan. The same happens in baseball. And the same happens in soccer/football in Europe. The hire players from Asia to get fans from Asia... to sell merchandise in Asia. Not to say that those players are less talented than the other players - but it is a big consideration for GM's of teams.
There is nothing public can not afford as long as the wealthy elite will be the primary benefactors. Of course the inverse is true if the public will be the primary benefactors. Socialism only works for the wealthy !
It is past time to bring this crap to an end, but my money says that we will not.
Taxes should pay for stadiums, but tickets to attend the games should be cheap and available to all locals and visitors who are fans of the sport. Teams should probably also be owned by local Governments so when they perform well, the locals actually earn money from the success of the team.
America is a crazy country a country that uses its population in wars then throw them out to die in ptsd and other war related illness yet they claim they worship their veterans
The country uses migrants in war in the promise of citizenship and as soon as they are back they are deported
They take the money from the public funding and use it to bail banks and large financial institutions while the average joe is thrown out of his home the moment they default
It’s a crazy bat shit country yet the average iq of the American public is not larger than an ape
Ask any American who is the Kardashian’s they know them all by heart as them who is Edison or Swan or. Einstein etc they won’t know any ask any American who is Tesla they would say it’s a car
The truth is if you are a politician in USA and your average public is as dumb as a stick you will take advantage of the stupid masses
I grew up in Cleveland, and Art Modell did take the Browns and go to Baltimore because we would not build a new stadium. It devastated the downtown area. The city ended up building new venues for the Cavs, Indians, and a new Browns team they lured in. Now they all want updating. The Indians and Cavs are somewhat respectable, but the poor Browns are the Browns. But the city loves them all, and it does bring money into the downtown area, which had suffered from urban flight. Our downtown is more vibrant. Our public schools are probably the worst in the nation. I think the deals should include that the teams have to give back a percentage of profits to fund the schools. But that doesn’t fix bad school management and administration and misappropriation of funds. I say this as a retired teacher.
As a Braves fan....wait, make that a FORMER Braves fan (they have a new stadium this year, when their previous one is a little over half my age), I have great respect for the Cubs and Red Sox. And some respect for the team I used to hate: The Yankees.
The search for Anakin Skywalker continues. Go, Democrats! Remember the Roman Empire, my friends! It is right that America turns to a Democrat state. Say, bye, bye traditionalists for the sabers of truth are SMARTER. Republicans will be running like Luke and Leia...guns belong to Democrats and even Pythagoras had to tolerate Rome. These revolutionaries crave stability and would pass a thousand Republicans to achieve its appearance. We should show them that there is little stability in its embracing. Come to the Dark Side, Luke, and realize all is lost...
"The thing you weren't quite good to make your dad love you" how it hit home. I USED to love playing soccer as a kid, till my father would come watch my games and from the bleachers would shout encouraging words!!!
true, but his statement absolutely makes sense as soon as you change it to US-americans .... totally legit to generalize in such way when an insufferable large majority is dumber then a bag of hammers. Those not so dumb still fail in large numbers with their ignorance/tolerance towards stupidity.
its not a con, you know what you get and still are willing to pay .. that makes it a legit business deal with you just being of questionable intellect if you pay so far above value for your products and services. Same goes for cinema prices for popcorn and drinks etc.
Visiting a stadium and watch others do sports is nothing essential to life so they also dont rob you by exploiting a necessity for profit, if you cant say no to something as meaningless as watching sports as soon as the price is ridiculous then its your problem and I honestly applaud everyone able to get that much money off dumb cities and people.
Everything in here is true. Look no farther than the Atlanta Braves for proof that stadiums don't improve the area around them. The worst, crime ridden, gang infested neighborhoods in Atlanta are directly adjacent to (as in literally the next street over...not a block or multiple blocks...as in across the street) the now former Braves Stadium. The Olympics in 1996 and the Braves were supposed to revitalize the area - but anyone from Atlanta knows this absolutely did not happen at all. Now the Braves moved to the suburbs and ironically got the Cobb County Government to fund their stadium...sigh...
Nailed it John Oliver.
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