Neil Howe, co-author of "The Fourth Turning." While what's going in Washington may SEEM like run-of-the-mill dysfunctional politics that we've all gotten used to - the reality is - we could be watching something much, much bigger unfolding. Something bigger than Speaker Boehner - something bigger than Harry Reid - and something even bigger than President Obama. This debt-limit fiasco might actually be the start of a crisis in America unlike any this nation has ever seen since the Great Depression or even the Civil War. Thom Hartmann is joined by Neil Howe - President & Co-Founder of Lifecourse Associates & the author of eight books including the one I want to talk about tonight, "The Fourth Turning."
greg wilkinson How about the same kind of response we'd have seen in other Crisis eras? Did we immediately reinstate the draft and declare war? No. Instead we didn't, instead invaded the wrong country after more than a year had passed and tried to do it on the cheap. The country may have been traumatized but most of it was allowed to remain largely uninvolved. That's an Unraveling response
I think the words 'began' and 'started' can be used interchangeably.What could signal critical mass more than humans flying plains into large buildings and committing mass murder to make a political point?
"so you've got these diehard values crusaders among the boomers..." ...wtf lol! Boomers with values? They squandered all the gains the ww2 generation left them. Nevermind gen x'ers are few in numbers to begin with sandwiched in between boomers and millenials, yet will have to bare the burden of supporting the aging boomers.
The conditions we're seeing now are unlike anything this country has ever seen. The last time there was a shuddering this profound and such big shifts and power struggles on the horizon was the 15th century.
The Internet is one of the big factors. It's an invention on par with the Printing Press and it's going to have a huge impact on the future. This is why, if we lose everything else, we need to dig in and protect the Internet.
@EdM021 What I've always found odd is the alliance between Christian fundies and neocons. I guess it makes sense since both love having a big military to invade and occupy other countries. The Christian fundies want a military to support Israel in the Middle East and to help bring on the End Times. And the neocons want a military so as to further strengthen the military-industrial complex. They have different end goals, but they desire the same means.
@EdM021 I'm not a big fan of paranoid fear-mongering and doomsaying. I tend to think many changes are just cycles. Still, there are many factors right now that are different than in the past. Power is more concentrated than ever, especially with large corporations (globalization, conglomerates, corporate personhood, Citizens United, etc). We either have a corporatist govt or inverted totalitarianism. For certain, democracy is being attacked, but I don't know if it's fatally wounded yet.
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